Trump's Death Cult Explained

[Jon Miller]

I think that whether a non-profit organization is a charity or not often depends on whether you think it is run by scammers. Determining that the leadership of a religious body are scammers is a pretty difficult.

An organization being a charity does not mean that the majority of people supports the organizations philanthropic goals. Only that the organization has them and is pursuing them.

https://www.score.org/resource/what-difference-between-nonprofit-organization-and-charity

"What most clearly distinguishes 501(c)(3) charities from other nonprofits, however, is that donations to 501(c)(3) organizations are tax-deductible to their donors."

"So, what is the actual trick to determining if a nonprofit is a charity? The answer is reliably found in the organization’s purpose. If the nonprofit’s purpose is educational or religious, if it provides funds or services to help support medical research, or if it promotes a cause that in some way could benefit the general public, 99% of the time that entity is known as a charity."

As far as religious scammers like many of the televangelists, I think it is the media's job to bring them to light. And if they are scammers, likely they are doing shady dealings in other areas, where the FBI can investigate them.

Obviously the key point of a charity versus a non-profit would be removed if tax deductions were removed from the tax code.

JM

[Berzerker]

https://www.vox.com/2018/10/19/17990...tion-tampering

THat was a two second search from the description you gave. "twitter troll farms 100k". Just to see what came up. Shrug.

I've not read the details, but it looks like the data is available if you are so inclined to read them.

I never bothered looking, I got the description from Aaron Mate and Jimmy Dore (maybe Greenwald?). During congressional testimony the guy representing Google was asked how much $ they were paid and he said 3-4k as I remember. As for the Vox article:

The Twitter dump encompasses 10 million tweets since 2009 — 9 million of them from the IRA, the rest mainly from the suspected Iranian accounts.

We're interested in the summer/fall of 2016... But if they've been doing this for over a decade why weaponize it to red bait opponents? Oh, stupid question - we're talking about Hillary Clinton, John Podesta, John Brennan and assorted operatives masquerading as public servants.

The IRA is a known Russian troll factory, and it’s responsible for the vast majority of the flood of troll content that’s been unleashed across social media in recent years — as well as a significant amount of direct campaigning in the 2016 US election.

Okay, whats a significant amount and how bipartisan was it? I'm reading these qualifiers closely to figure out the extent of the effort and it keeps getting smaller and smaller.

many of the campaigns undertaken by the IRA involved anti-Clinton propaganda

How many? Were there any anti-Trump ads? What % of the ad buy was devoted to anti-Clinton propaganda?

Earlier this year, special counsel Robert Mueller indicted the IRA for its actions, including a charge for “conspiracy to defraud the United States.” However, there’s little evidence that the IRA’s agitation was directly responsible for shifting election results.

This is an older article but the charges have been dropped, the accused fought them and poof, they're gone. Kinda pulls the curtain back on the wizard. Btw, the owner of Crowdstrike testified back in Jan '17 that they actually had no proof the Russians stole the DNC emails. How many times did people like Schiff say they had the proof and never showed it? These Russia Gaters were telling us a different story than the ones they gave under oath.

Though most of the tweets about the US election involved stirring up anti-Clinton sentiment, the trolls deployed a wide range of political rhetoric, ranging from tweets supporting the Black Lives Matter movement to spreading conspiracy theories and hoaxes.

This often involved stoking both sides of a political controversy at the same time, as well as capitalizing on current news, events, and hashtags for maximum efficacy. The trolls also engaged with pop culture and internet memes to seem more authentic.

I followed the link within their story to analysis of the tweets:

4. Equal-Opportunity Troll Farms


The Russian trolls were non-partisan: they tried to inflame everybody, regardless of race, creed, politics, or sexual orientation. On many occasions, they pushed both sides of divisive issues.

“Mass shooting occurs even in #GunFreeZones so people is the problem not guns #Prayers4California” ( @micparrish, December 3, 2015)

“mass shooting wont stop until there are #GunFreeZones #Prayers4California” (@LazyKStafford, December 3, 2015)

It is vital to recognize this factor to end the partisan perception that Russian influence operations focused on one side of the political spectrum. Focus shifted over time or at specific moments based target audience.

Its called click bait...and most of the ads from Russia is in Russian for a domestic audience. They were especially active when the war with Ukraine broke out.

These opportunistic attacks had little to no discernible impact on the target populations’ political behavior, indicating the limitations of online troll operations.

Nobody voted differently based on these ads. I got to the end of that link to see the authors are from the Atlantic Council. Did you know they took millions from the owner of Burisma after they trashed the prosecutor Shokin who was investigating Hunter Biden's company?

So, how many ads targeted Clinton and how many targeted Trump?

and can we see them ourselves?

Meanwhile the Israeli lobby has Congress by the balls and the Democrats asked Russia and Ukraine to interfere in our elections. The Steele dossier was largely Russian disinformation and it was sold to the FBI who took it to a Fisa court to spy on Trump. These are the people complaining about foreign influence helping Trump.

[Berzerker]

Believers still pay the same taxes as unbelievers. Churches just do not pay taxes that non-religious non-profit organizations do not have to pay.

JM

But I cant start a church of the non-believers and get an exemption from taxes. I gotta subsidize the believers and their churches.

[Elok]

It's called "Unitarian Universalism," and it's been around for quite some time.

[Jon Miller]

But I cant start a church of the non-believers and get an exemption from taxes. I gotta subsidize the believers and their churches.

You can start a philanthropic institution dedicated to supporting humanism/etc (or a support group for leaving cults) and get it classified as a charity.

I don't understand how you are subsidizing believers, other than the way you are subsidizing all charities.

JM
(It comes across as if you don't understand how taxation works in the US.)

[Ted Striker]

Here we have KKKaptain Shinsplints not even letting George Floyd’s brother get a word in on a phone call.

Less bad Biden took plenty of time to let the man pour his heart out.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/george-floyds-brother-philonise-says-president-trump-would-not-let-him-talk-on-call

[giblets]

So the choice is a narcissistic old man enamored with the sound of his own voice and a senile old man who just sits there and drools?

[Elok]

Yes. These are the two best options out of, I would guess, ~200 million people technically eligible for the presidency.

[Ted Striker]

Yes, we can at least hope the drooler in chief will put enough competent people under him to keep the basics running without messing it up.

[Uncle Sparky]

Ronnie Raygun was a drooler and chief for most of his second term, and is still worshiped by segments of the 'Merkin public.

[ZEE]

I disagree with Gribbler.

[Berzerker]

You can start a philanthropic institution dedicated to supporting humanism/etc (or a support group for leaving cults) and get it classified as a charity.

I don't understand how you are subsidizing believers, other than the way you are subsidizing all charities.

JM
(It comes across as if you don't understand how taxation works in the US.)

Thats a good argument, but the 1st Amendment specifically protects me from having to subsidize your religion and I'm not okay with subsidizing charities and their wealthy benefactors either. Loopholes benefit the people who can afford to hire lobbyists and tax attorneys and charities are a big one. A progressive tax code helps offset that but would you tax a poor man so a rich man can pay less in taxes because they like whales...or snails?

[Jon Miller]

Thats a good argument, but the 1st Amendment specifically protects me from having to subsidize your religion and I'm not okay with subsidizing charities and their wealthy benefactors either.

As far as the lack of income tax or sales tax, you aren't subsidizing anything.

As far as the charitable deduction (which decreases not the amount of taxes that charities pay but rather the amount of taxes that those who give to charities pay, in other words, you are subsidizing those who value that charity), I can appreciate your position and think that it is reasonable to remove it. Other countries (in Europe) do not have charitable deductions and I think overall that this is more equitable.

As far as property taxes go, I think it is defensible to tax it.

JM

[Ted Striker]

Speaking of cults...

This newspaper Epoch Times is a pro Trump news outlet. Lots of Trump supporters are very traditional so haven't migrated to all digital, so still love newspaper. Your typical right wing shill nonsense, so not a big deal, garbage in one ear and out the other.

But here's where it gets REALLY WEIRD

This paper is funded by FALUN GONG

For those who don't know, these guys and the CCP haaaate each other.

I'm no fan of the CCP, but these guys are no angels either, and are a weird Chinese cult, and do lots of information warfare with their dance shows, it reminds me alot of Scientology.

Ana Kasparian tells more below

[Felch]

So the choice is a narcissistic old man enamored with the sound of his own voice and a senile old man who just sits there and drools?

He's not senile, he slumbers. When he awakens, all shall know his power.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Biden R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

[Ted Striker]

FINALLY, Democrats come out swinging, calling out Trump for the COWARD he is

[Dauphin]

Speaking of cults...

This newspaper Epoch Times is a pro Trump news outlet. Lots of Trump supporters are very traditional so haven't migrated to all digital, so still love newspaper. Your typical right wing shill nonsense, so not a big deal, garbage in one ear and out the other.

But here's where it gets REALLY WEIRD

This paper is funded by FALUN GONG

For those who don't know, these guys and the CCP haaaate each other.

I'm no fan of the CCP, but these guys are no angels either, and are a weird Chinese cult, and do lots of information warfare with their dance shows, it reminds me alot of Scientology.

Ana Kasparian tells more below

I get the Epoch Times delivered unsolicited into my letter box. Goes straight in the recycling. The postal workers made a stink too, but legally the mail needs to be delivered.

[Ted Striker]

Thanks for the vid, I learned a few things. These guys got endless money to be sending unsolicited newspapers to people like that.

[Provost Harrison]

I also think the creation of so much paper junk mail should be outlawed...the amount of crap that gets pushed through our letterbox we don't want and the wastefulness of the resources required to produce millions of free newspapers, flyers, etc. Ban it, and fine the bastards if they continue making it.

[Ted Striker]

I agree and not only such a waste of resources, it’s a waste of time trying to sift through it all

[Dauphin]

Far right, who claim to defend the statues as the police aren't, get drunk and attack the police.