Brexit divorce deal

[Dauphin]

Leave politicians seem to be all numpties.

Nadine Dorries - upset Britain won't have MEPs or Commissioners.
Dominic Raab - Former Brexit Secretary- discovered that apparently Dover is an important port.
David Davies - Former Brexit Secretary - thinks that no deal Brexit means you still have a transition period.
Liam Fox - Easiest Trade Deal in History
Reese-Mogg - Can't even organize 48 people to follow him.

yada yada yada

[BeBMan]

Interesting thoughts from a brexiter

(...) This deal gives us no voice, no votes, no MEPs, no commissioner. (...)

This is one of these moments when you don't know if you should react amused, shocked, or just sad.

[pchang]

Our words are backed with nuclear weapons - that is the only response that really matters.

[BlackCat]

Interesting thoughts from a brexiter

Theresa May’s Brexit deal has been slammed by arch-leave MP Nadine Dorries – because it means the UK will be left without any Members of the European Parliament.

The Tory backbencher, who campaigned tirelessly to get the country out of Europe, said Ms May's deal would leave the UK without any influence in Europe.

“This is a very sad place to be,” she told Sky News. “But unfortunately, the future of the country and of our relationship with Europe is at stake. This deal gives us no voice, no votes, no MEPs, no commissioner.”

Her words were met with astonishment online.

“Ladies and gentlemen, this is the quality of our politicians right now,” one Twitter user noted. “The intellect of a boiled cabbage.”

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[BeBMan]

That was because noone had email back then

[pchang]

I KNOW that before joining the EEC, the UK economy was a total basket case......

[Bereta_Eder]

brexit was the result of the rocking of the boat of the mistakes of the globnilization. Logic didn't prevail. Sentimentality prevailed. eaons of mistrust between french/germans the the UK played its part. it's big bad wolf that's to blame let's get out. DONg WRONG. However being greek I always bow down to democracy. sometimes the heart knows reasons that reason doesn't. so big old emo UK might be right "in the heart" time will tell. it will suffer though, getting out of the EU ewill fix absolutely zero for it, it will make matters worse. at least in the mid term. wishing for the EU to dissolve so as to say we are w@nkers, please god, let them make something more frecked up than us so we can cover our ass, is not the way to go

[Bereta_Eder]

UK will simply get rotten deals. Its new found so called autonomy will not be transalted to better free-er deals but to worse and more restrictive deals. farage was talking about the so called "commonwealth" who are they? some polar bears in the far end of the world you can count them on the fingers of one hand and some kangooroo lovers in the most forsaken criminal originated island noone in their right mind would have wanted to visit. And the US? the US is a whore (like everyone). It will do and will sell itself to what is more advantegeous for it

[Bereta_Eder]

EU is TOO MUCH free trade. actually the dogma of neoliberalism is entrenched in the treaties and in the functioning of the commission. There are scaling back a bit (like for water for example) but to say that the EU is protectionist is to simply not have a clue

[pchang]

Who are you going to believe? You’re lyin’ eyes or what you KNOW to be true?

I KNOW that trade deals were not the primary driver of the Brexit yes vote.

[BeBMan]

Are you stupid or a liar? The EU is exceptionally protectionist against nonmembers. This is the reason why the UK has spen 40 years trying to get them to be less protectionist.

If you want to move into Serb territory I can't hinder you, but let's be clear here: repeated assertions like "the EU is X" don't make it so.

But then again it's no surprise that you have trouble building a credible case, and need to resort to your usual personal crap to make up for a lack of arguments, because any balanced assessment of the EU would show that your stuff isn't grounded in reality:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44291103

[Dinner]

Are you stupid or a liar? The EU is exceptionally protectionist against nonmembers. This is the reason why the UK has spen 40 years trying to get them to be less protectionist.

[BeBMan]

The UK simply must be free to negotiate it's own free trade agreements outside of the protectionist statism of the EU.

In that field it makes no sense whatsoever to call the EU protectionist, as it reguarly does free trade deals. They go for the whole block though - that is precisely the point of being in a union, because it gives the EU as a whole a better positon when dealing with large units like China/India/whatever than the individual European countries - even bigger ones like Germany, France, UK - would ever have. Sure the UK might do their own now - after it threw everything away it had.

[Dinner]

In the short term, yes, but I view that as the price which must be paid to be free of the EU's anti-democratic authoritarianism. The UK simply must be free to negotiate it's own free trade agreements outside of the protectionist statism of the EU. Anything less is a devil's bargain which must be rejected out of hand.

When they are successful in this others will follow; thus why the anti-democratic European Commission has been trying to sabotage them from the start. Just say no and walk.

[BeBMan]

No deal is still the best deal!

Brexit: No deal will mean 'lost jobs, lower wages and higher inflation' warns Bank of England governor Mark Carney

‘This would be a large negative shock to the economy – that means lost output, lost jobs, lower wages, higher inflation all things being equal,’ said the Bank governor

full: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-a8642566.html