Thread for obviously newsworthy stuff

[Giancarlo]

I think Trump, ICE officials and anyone else who greenlights this needs to be put on trial for crimes against humanity. Life sentences mandatory. ICE doesn't just need to be disbanded. Its agents need to be arrested and tried.

ICE is a terrorist organization masquerading as law enforcement.

[Broken_Erika]

Something else from that townhall.com site that caught my attention.

Trump Administration Sets Up Judicial Showdown: They're Going To Hold Migrant Children Indefinitely

The Trump administration announced a new rule Thursday that would allow immigrant children with their parents to be held in detention indefinitely, upending a ban on indefinite detention that has been in place for 20 years.

The rule, proposed by the departments of Homeland Security and Health and Human Services, goes into effect in 60 days and will allow Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to keep children with their mothers in detention facilities while their cases for asylum play out in court.

A DHS official speaking on the condition of anonymity said the purpose of the rulemaking is to terminate the 1997 Flores settlement agreement that said children could not be held in detention longer than 20 days. The result may mean the issue is taken to appellate courts or even the Supreme Court.

Officials argue that the rulemaking is legal because they will be holding children in ICE facilities that have been evaluated by third parties.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/09/06/trump-administration-sets-up-judicial-showdown-theyre-going-to-hold-migrant-children-indefinitely-n2516412

[Broken_Erika]

Health care is a Luxury that should be the exclusive privilege of those who make at least $1,000,000 a year!

[Broken_Erika]

Only in America. One of the only developed nations in the world that can't figure out how to run a public health care system.

[Proteus_MST]

Do you know price gouging kills? Your man Martin Shkrieli would know.

Well, remember that Kid is totally O.K. with people not being able to afford necessary medical procedures (or medicines),
as long as those who can afford them are treated with the best efficiency possible

[Giancarlo]

Do you know that fixing the price lower creates more of a shortage?

Do you know price gouging kills? Your man Martin Shkrieli would know.

[Giancarlo]

Rand Paul says that lie detector tests should be used to find the deep state operative that wrote the NYT op-ed.

Mike Pence is VP.

Deep state operative lmao. What a moron like you.

[Kidlicious]

Rand Paul says that lie detector tests should be used to find the deep state operative that wrote the NYT op-ed.

[Kidlicious]

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/09/01/641615877/insulins-high-cost-leads-to-lethal-rationing

Do you know that fixing the price lower creates more of a shortage?

[Broken_Erika]

Insulin's High Cost Leads To Lethal Rationing

Diabetic ketoacidosis is a terrible way to die. It's what happens when you don't have enough insulin. Your blood sugar gets so high that your blood becomes highly acidic, your cells dehydrate, and your body stops functioning.

Diabetic ketoacidosis is how Nicole Smith-Holt lost her son. Three days before his payday. Because he couldn't afford his insulin.

"It shouldn't have happened," Smith-Holt says looking at her son's death certificate on her dining room table in Richfield, Minn. "That cause of death of diabetic ketoacidosis should have never happened."

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/09/01/641615877/insulins-high-cost-leads-to-lethal-rationing

[JohnT]

Good night! It's a graph! This isn't hard. It's just a representation of facts!

Which, in the one comment you made about it, you got wrong, and then repeatedly declined to state as to why you posted the chart.

Your mental disorders are really in control right now, aren't they? Take your pills, gramps.

[Kidlicious]

Gotta say, that article makes some very basic mistakes:

1. "The nominal rate of year over year growth for median household income has reached 5.6% in July 2018, which ranks fifth for the monthly data we have going back to January 2001. The inflation-adjusted year-over-year growth rate of median household income was also up for July 2018."

A. I mean... the adjusted rate growth and the nominal rate growth will vary little when you're measuring the baseline month. A y-to-y rate will have a bit of a change, of course, but not much.

B. Note that the writer made the distinction that the y2y nominal growth rate was 5th since 2001, but somehow "forgot" to provide a similar analysis for the adjusted rate in the very next sentence.

2. "U.S. median household income is setting new monthly records in both nominal and real terms."

A. This sentence is designed specifically for moron consumption (Hi, Kid!). Given that July 2018 is the baseline month, if July 2018 sets a record in nominal dollars, it will also set a record in real dollars as well. Brilliant analysis, that!

3. "In July 2018, it is also now seeing some of its fastest-on-record nominal year-over-year growth rates. Our second chart shows that data from January 2001 through July 2018."

Well, yes, possibly.

A. Would need to see the numbers before you can actually make that claim, but I will assume the author isn't a liar, just biased.

B. Why "biased"? Because he (assuming) cherry-picked the date range. Had he gone back to, as shown above, the 1970s, July 2018 would be quite middlin'. But he chose one of the least inflationary periods in American economic history and shouted "success!"... and still had to rely on nominal numbers to make his point.

Also, this, from Kid:

4. " So you don't care to tell us why you don't seem to understand why Median HH income decreased in 2001?"

Because it didn't. Look again:



Looks like wages grew in 2001, dropped a bit in 2002 (look at that inflation spike in Q1, 2002!), remained flat for the rest of the year, then started growing again (nominally, but not adjusted) in 2003.

So, are you sure you know how to read a chart?

For some reason you think I posted that article. Are you delusional?

[Kidlicious]

Good night! It's a graph! This isn't hard. It's just a representation of facts!

[JohnT]

Posted to reduce JohnT's frustrations. Graph source:
https://finance.townhall.com/columni...ncome-n2514803

The link should show what Kid thinks (or rather, has been told) the graph means.

Gotta say, that article makes some very basic mistakes:

1. "The nominal rate of year over year growth for median household income has reached 5.6% in July 2018, which ranks fifth for the monthly data we have going back to January 2001. The inflation-adjusted year-over-year growth rate of median household income was also up for July 2018."

A. I mean... the adjusted rate growth and the nominal rate growth will vary little when you're measuring the baseline month. A y-to-y rate will have a bit of a change, of course, but not much.

B. Note that the writer made the distinction that the y2y nominal growth rate was 5th since 2001, but somehow "forgot" to provide a similar analysis for the adjusted rate in the very next sentence.

2. "U.S. median household income is setting new monthly records in both nominal and real terms."

A. This sentence is designed specifically for moron consumption (Hi, Kid!). Given that July 2018 is the baseline month, if July 2018 sets a record in nominal dollars, it will also set a record in real dollars as well. Brilliant analysis, that!

3. "In July 2018, it is also now seeing some of its fastest-on-record nominal year-over-year growth rates. Our second chart shows that data from January 2001 through July 2018."

Well, yes, possibly.

A. Would need to see the numbers before you can actually make that claim, but I will assume the author isn't a liar, just biased.

B. Why "biased"? Because he (assuming) cherry-picked the date range. Had he gone back to, as shown above, the 1970s, July 2018 would be quite middlin'. But he chose one of the least inflationary periods in American economic history and shouted "success!"... and still had to rely on nominal numbers to make his point.

Also, this, from Kid:

4. " So you don't care to tell us why you don't seem to understand why Median HH income decreased in 2001?"

Because it didn't. Look again:



Looks like wages grew in 2001, dropped a bit in 2002 (look at that inflation spike in Q1, 2002!), remained flat for the rest of the year, then started growing again (nominally, but not adjusted) in 2003.

So, are you sure you know how to read a chart?

[Broken_Erika]

That's the spam filter that randomly blocks anything but spam.

Meanwhile some people wonder why wonders why no-one takes Gary Johnson seriously..