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[Kidlicious]

Alternatively, currently most employers pay on average 1/2 of the health insurance costs because of tax advantage. Just make it so that that payment is made to the government instead of the health insurance companies and then the health insurance companies take 3/8 from the government (if the employee has a health plan). Then the government offers MedicareForAll at the cost of 100 USD for anyone.

JM

I don't know if that adds up. But someone is still paying for it or it adds to the deficit.

[spambot]

Well it's not like Republicans ever refuse to answer a question oh wait yes they do.

[Kidlicious]

Republicans don't pay for anything, why should Democrats?

On the other hand, we are already paying for it. There could be a tax equal 3/4 of whatever you + employer currently pay on health care. You can choose to keep your current healthcare (where they then return 5/8 of what you currently pay to your current healthcare provider) or cancel your current healthcare (in which case you get Medicare for all) and keep the remaining 1/4 for yourself.

From the 1/8 'extra tax' those who are not currently funded by medicare/medicaid/healthcare can be funded.

The amount per month for health insurance is 300-500 per person (might get greater for old people). Let's pick 400. So we would implement a new tax (per person) of Min(250,250/4*(Income/Poverty Income)). You would have an option of having Medicare or picking a private insurance (where the insurance company would get 200 USD, but could charge you any amount you are willing to pay above that). We would get rid of the current health insurance subsidy.

This would be an effective tax on private health insurance to pay for health insurance for everyone. It would also result in an effective increase in the disposable income for most people in the middle and working classes.

JM

Of course it would be paid for but it looks like she has no idea how it would be. She also says it will be more affordable. How so?

The difference between that and Trump saying that Mexico is going to pay for the wall is that that's an actual way to pay for the wall, although not likely.

[Jon Miller]

Alternatively, currently most employers pay on average 1/2 of the health insurance costs because of tax advantage. Just make it so that that payment is made to the government instead of the health insurance companies and then the health insurance companies take 3/8 from the government (if the employee has a health plan). Then the government offers MedicareForAll at the cost of 100 USD for anyone.

JM

[Jon Miller]

When asked how she plans to pay for Medicare for all Ocasio-Cortez just keeps saying that it's more affordable so she doesn't understand the question.

Republicans don't pay for anything, why should Democrats?

On the other hand, we are already paying for it. There could be a tax equal 3/4 of whatever you + employer currently pay on health care. You can choose to keep your current healthcare (where they then return 5/8 of what you currently pay to your current healthcare provider) or cancel your current healthcare (in which case you get Medicare for all) and keep the remaining 1/4 for yourself.

From the 1/8 'extra tax' those who are not currently funded by medicare/medicaid/healthcare can be funded.

The amount per month for health insurance is 300-500 per person (might get greater for old people). Let's pick 400. So we would implement a new tax (per person) of Min(250,250/4*(Income/Poverty Income)). You would have an option of having Medicare or picking a private insurance (where the insurance company would get 200 USD, but could charge you any amount you are willing to pay above that). We would get rid of the current health insurance subsidy.

This would be an effective tax on private health insurance to pay for health insurance for everyone. It would also result in an effective increase in the disposable income for most people in the middle and working classes.

JM

[Kidlicious]

When asked how she plans to pay for Medicare for all Ocasio-Cortez just keeps saying that it's more affordable so she doesn't understand the question.

[Lorizael]

Didn't realize Mexico was populated entirely by young, college-educated, urban women.

[Kidlicious]

Or using CNN speak, "The battle for America."

[rah]

Of the two, I know who I'd rather sound like. (hint, not like the idiot)

[Kidlicious]

Wow. You are even taking vocabulary lessons from Trump.

And you talk like CNN

[pchang]

Wow. You are even taking vocabulary lessons from Trump.

[Kidlicious]

Barbed wire fence, cost per linear foot: approx. $1.50

https://www.agriculture.com/news/livestock/what-will-a-new-fence-cost-this-year_3-ar22518

Concrete block wall, six feet tall, cost per linear foot: approx. $57

https://howmuch.net/costs/wall-block-install

It would appear that a wall is roughly 40 times more expensive than a barbed wire fence, let alone simply leaving barbed wire at the border, and this is just for a measly six foot tall wall that any healthy mexican adult could presumably climb over.

We are going to get whatever we can get but I think it's going to be huge.

[Proteus_MST]

Barbed wire fence, cost per linear foot: approx. $1.50
https://www.agriculture.com/news/liv...year_3-ar22518
Concrete block wall, six feet tall, cost per linear foot: approx. $57

https://howmuch.net/costs/wall-block-install

It would appear that a wall is roughly 40 times more expensive than a barbed wire fence, let alone simply leaving barbed wire at the border, and this is just for a measly six foot tall wall that any healthy mexican adult could presumably climb over.

Well, Donnie never specified how high the wall at the border to Mexico was supposed to be ...or did he?

[spambot]

Barbed wire fence, cost per linear foot: approx. $1.50

https://www.agriculture.com/news/livestock/what-will-a-new-fence-cost-this-year_3-ar22518

Concrete block wall, six feet tall, cost per linear foot: approx. $57

https://howmuch.net/costs/wall-block-install

It would appear that a wall is roughly 40 times more expensive than a barbed wire fence, let alone simply leaving barbed wire at the border, and this is just for a measly six foot tall wall that any healthy mexican adult could presumably climb over.

[Proteus_MST]

The funds have been earmarked for national defense. That's what the wall is for.

Then let me be the firts to bring you the good news:
The USA are not under attack, they are at peace with their southern neighbor.
Even the so called invasion force turned out to be just a bunch of refugees/asylum seekers

No need to destroy natural habitats for rare and endangered species just for Paranoia