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[ZEE]

I want to post a quippy one-liner so I can fit in too.

[Aeson]

There's no public support for Trump being president either ...

[Kidlicious]

You, just like the russians, have a habit/70 year old tradition of occupying foreign territories and fighting proxy wars ... it would look totally normal if you do it

There is no public support for just protecting Kurds or containing Turkey.

[spambot]

Not a short read, but definitely worth the time. Article details the sh1tshow that was Trump's "transition" into office, including what really happened with Chris Christie getting shut out of any post in the new administration:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/201...ransition-team

Not that it matters, but I did post that link eight posts before you

[Proteus_MST]

But you think it looks good for us?

You, just like the russians, have a habit/70 year old tradition of occupying foreign territories and fighting proxy wars ... it would look totally normal if you do it

[Kidlicious]

Wouldn't look nice for the world, if german troops would occupy foreign territory again, less than 75 years after the 3rd Reich

But you think it looks good for us?

[Proteus_MST]

Send German boys to protect them.

Wouldn't look nice for the world, if german troops would occupy foreign territory again, less than 75 years after the 3rd Reich

[Kidlicious]

I would be of the same opinion if it had been a decision by the Obama government.

I am against letting get the syrian kurdish territory get under control of Erdogan.
Especially since the kurdish troops fought bravely and (in contrast to the americans) gave lots of their blood in defense of freedom

And what will happen when/if the kurdish territory gets under control of Erdogan can be perfectly well be seen in the turkish territories already under turkish control.
Actively efforts to erase the turkish culture (including forbidding turkish kurds to speak the kurdish language) and genocide


It may also happen that the kurdish territory in Syria becomes a permanent battleground between IS (contrary to Trumps statements the IS still has almost 20k fighters ... they are weak, but not totally erased), the Kurds, Turkey, Iran and Syria. Some kind oif instable region that Obama was accused of creating when he withdrew his trooops from Iraq ... and therefore possibly a breeding ground for some new extremist movement.

That the stab in the back of the syrian Kurds will also not go unnoticed by other minorities (that could be useful to the americans in the future) should also be clear.
It will very likely result in such movements ratrher seeking the help of russia or Chiona than the USA ... according to the motto: Timeo Americanos et dona ferentes

Send German boys to protect them.

[Proteus_MST]

Now you're pro-war, because Orange Man.

I would be of the same opinion if it had been a decision by the Obama government.

I am against letting get the syrian kurdish territory get under control of Erdogan.
Especially since the kurdish troops fought bravely and (in contrast to the americans) gave lots of their blood in defense of freedom

And what will happen when/if the kurdish territory gets under control of Erdogan can be perfectly well be seen in the turkish territories already under turkish control.
Actively efforts to erase the turkish culture (including forbidding turkish kurds to speak the kurdish language) and genocide


It may also happen that the kurdish territory in Syria becomes a permanent battleground between IS (contrary to Trumps statements the IS still has almost 20k fighters ... they are weak, but not totally erased), the Kurds, Turkey, Iran and Syria. Some kind oif instable region that Obama was accused of creating when he withdrew his trooops from Iraq ... and therefore possibly a breeding ground for some new extremist movement.

That the stab in the back of the syrian Kurds will also not go unnoticed by other minorities (that could be useful to the americans in the future) should also be clear.
It will very likely result in such movements ratrher seeking the help of russia or Chiona than the USA ... according to the motto: Timeo Americanos et dona ferentes

[Kidlicious]

Are you talking about the Communist Kurds?

[pchang]

Actually, this has always been a problem in making deals with the US. Unless it is ratified in a treaty, US foreign policy changes every 4 years with whoever wins the Presidency.

[Kidlicious]

Addendum:
Trumps withdrawal of US troops from Syria may well be a deal with turkey.
As soon as the US troops are withdrawn, turkish troops are free to conquer the kurdish regions of syria ... the ones where kurdish troops helped the USA (and the free western world) to put pressure on IS (and put a stop on IS conquest (whereas turkey itself put a blind eye on smuggling of weapons, oil and humans into IS territory and even healed IS troops in turkisdh hospitals))

That`s what you get for helping the USA ... as soon as you aren't useful for the USA anymore you get dropped like a hot potato and stabbed in the back

https://www.vox.com/2018/12/19/18148...war-withdrawal

Now you're pro-war, because Orange Man.

[Proteus_MST]

Addendum:
Trumps withdrawal of US troops from Syria may well be a deal with turkey.
As soon as the US troops are withdrawn, turkish troops are free to conquer the kurdish regions of syria ... the ones where kurdish troops helped the USA (and the free western world) to put pressure on IS (and put a stop on IS conquest (whereas turkey itself put a blind eye on smuggling of weapons, oil and humans into IS territory and even healed IS troops in turkisdh hospitals))

That`s what you get for helping the USA ... as soon as you aren't useful for the USA anymore you get dropped like a hot potato and stabbed in the back

https://www.vox.com/2018/12/19/18148281/trump-syria-troops-kurds-turkey-war-withdrawal

[Proteus_MST]

We out.

HIS only reason for being there?

AFAIK he never was there, not even once, in order to support HIS troops ... just like he never was in any other region where US troops are deployed on mission ... guess he dislikes regions where he has no full climatized 5 star luxury hotel to stay

[Kidlicious]

We have defeated ISIS in Syria, my only reason for being there during the Trump Presidency.

We out.