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Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
Absolutely should do it.
On the plus side for Trump, there wouldn't be that many resignations over the issue, since he hasn't had the competence to fill the positions from which people would be resigning.The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
- A. Lincoln
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Everyone knows that trump is scrambling to hide everything, and that, with so much smoke, there is a fire. He's already fired two top officials (one for being dishonest, one for being honest), so you know that the rats are going to start fleeing the sinking ship. When that happens, the truth will come out, and Trump will likely resign rather than be impeached.
If Trump fires Muller (which I hope he does), then not even his strongest supporters in the House would be able to prevent the re-enactment of the Special Prosecutor provisions of USC Title 28 and taking the matter out of Trump's hands.The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
- A. Lincoln
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Originally posted by grumbler View PostEveryone knows that trump is scrambling to hide everything, and that, with so much smoke, there is a fire. He's already fired two top officials (one for being dishonest, one for being honest), so you know that the rats are going to start fleeing the sinking ship. When that happens, the truth will come out, and Trump will likely resign rather than be impeached.
If Trump fires Muller (which I hope he does), then not even his strongest supporters in the House would be able to prevent the re-enactment of the Special Prosecutor provisions of USC Title 28 and taking the matter out of Trump's hands.
(Poll taken before Comey testimony, but the 20% probably don't even know that he testified)I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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If Trump gets impeached a tiny minority of Republicans will be pissed. The rest will breathe a sigh of relief. They are, after all, patriots and are pained by the damage Trump is doing to US national interests. Plus, they are Republicans, and terrified by what is going to happen to them in 2018 if Trump's current stumbling continues. After 2018, it won't much matter what Republicans think.
78% of Republicans, and 93% of Democrats, think Trump may have obstructed justice.The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
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The President has the authority to tell the FBI director to stop an investigation of an innocent person. Comey even implied that he thought Flynn is innocent. He said, "I agree, he's a good guy." People don't know what is going on because of all the BS. Plus most of those Rs don't believe in collusion theory. So I wouldn't make much at all about that.
Trump needs to start winning and more Rs will get behind him. That's how Reagan did it. Trump has the potential to surpass Reagan's success.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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The President is obstructing justice if he orders the FBI to stop investigating an associate of the president simply because he is an associate of the President. Flynn is an agent of a foreign power, and a paid stooge of Russian state-owned media, no matter whether he is a "good guy." If Trump really thought Flynn was innocent, he would allow the investigation, so that there would be evidence. Instead, trump is threatening to fire, or has fired, everyone who has gotten close to the truth. Like Flynn, Julius Rosenberg was a "good guy," in spite of that whole, you know, executed for being a Soviet spy thing.
Trump is very unlikely to get impeached for being a Russian agent; he is highly likely to get impeached because he doesn't understand that even he cannot obstruct justice.The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
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Originally posted by grumbler View PostThe President is obstructing justice if he orders the FBI to stop investigating an associate of the president simply because he is an associate of the President. Flynn is an agent of a foreign power, and a paid stooge of Russian state-owned media, no matter whether he is a "good guy." If Trump really thought Flynn was innocent, he would allow the investigation, so that there would be evidence. Instead, trump is threatening to fire, or has fired, everyone who has gotten close to the truth. Like Flynn, Julius Rosenberg was a "good guy," in spite of that whole, you know, executed for being a Soviet spy thing.
Trump is very unlikely to get impeached for being a Russian agent; he is highly likely to get impeached because he doesn't understand that even he cannot obstruct justice.
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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It is the business of law enforcement to investigate suspicious activity. You don't know if someone is innocent (or guilty) until you investigate.
If you interfere with an investigation, it's obstruction of justice.
We even protect the rights of victims, and those of the accused, with something called due process. It's how things work in our democracy.
Why do you hate democracy, Kid?
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But... Kid must be right!!! Didn't any of you see the excerpt from the Cabinet Meeting where Trump asked everyone to praise him, and they did, with Rinsed Pre-pubis throwing his arms in the air in exultation? Obviously he's a Great Beloved and Respected Leader. Take that, Kim Jong-Un!There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.
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I just realized that less than 72 hours before this 'best president ever' cabinet meeting, Trump stood in the Rose Garden and denied asking for Comey's loyalty... I mean what crazed egomaniac would do something like that? Right? Someone please post the cabinet meeting...
The president convened his first full cabinet meeting at an oval mahogany desk. Then each member made obsequious opening remarks
- found it! no-one bodyslammed the Guardian this time...Last edited by Uncle Sparky; June 13, 2017, 03:03.There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.
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The countdown is on - it's either impeachment or the asylum. I'm starting to lean toward the funny farm.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
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