"Obama wiretapped Trump Tower - well, just kidding, dunno really"

[Kidlicious]

Whether you agree with a law or not, the law still obviously matters.

You ignored the other two ways it is completely different ... there's no evidence it was requested by Obama and no evidence they were being targeted.

... and I for one think Spicer should keep the job. After all the role of press secretary is to convey the positions of the administration to the public, and Spicer seems to do that perfectly. Plus he's unintentionally hilarious. (That last bit is why I read your posts as well.)

No. Napolatino said that Obama didn't spy on Trump, the Brits did. The Brits spied on Trump. And you can pretend Obama had nothing to do with it if you like but that's ridiculous. You can't pretend like he isn't their messiah when it suits your needs.

[Aeson]

Obama is the Brit messiah? That must be why they stayed in the EU at Obama's urging ...

JN's claim was clearly not corroborated by this report, as key aspects of what happened either have no evidence to support them or are refuted by the evidence we have so far. You're just too stupid and partisan to understand that obvious fact.

[Kidlicious]

Obama is the Brit messiah? That must be why they stayed in the EU at Obama's urging ...

JN's claim was clearly not corroborated by this report, as key aspects of what happened either have no evidence to support them or are refuted by the evidence we have so far. You're just too stupid and partisan to understand that obvious fact.

They spied on Americans and gave the information to the IC. The IC gave it to Obama's NS advisor. You're the one being stupid. It's just cover for your pretty little authoritarians who you wish success in turning America into a giant NYC/Syria.

[Aeson]

They spied on Russians (and others), Americans were talking to the Russians (and others) and got caught up incidentally ... and they shared that intel with the US.

None of which fits the description JN gave, which was that Obama asked them to spy on Americans.

[Aeson]

I personally opposed the Patriot Act and do not think the US should be spying on Americans or even saving that correspondence ... and dislike the intelligence community in general. (CIA meddling in foreign governments, etc.) All things which give you a woody so long as it isn't targeting your God-emperor Trump.

... but I know what words mean and what the laws are, and you are claiming words mean something they do not and that laws are something they are not.

[Ming]

Logic and laws mean nothing to Kid. All he believes is crap that fits his alt-right narrative.

[Kidlicious]

I personally opposed the Patriot Act and do not think the US should be spying on Americans or even saving that correspondence ... and dislike the intelligence community in general. (CIA meddling in foreign governments, etc.) All things which give you a woody so long as it isn't targeting your God-emperor Trump.

... but I know what words mean and what the laws are, and you are claiming words mean something they do not and that laws are something they are not.

I wish you had just a little shame about falsely attacking the character of good people.

Why do you oppose spying on Americans?

[Proteus_MST]

... but I know what words mean and what the laws are, and you are claiming words mean something they do not and that laws are something they are not.

He is like Trump in these regards

[Ming]

I wish you had just a little shame about falsely attacking the character of good people.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
You don't seem to have a problem when the Alt-right falsely attacks liberals... OH, but that's right... Everything the alt-right says is a fact to you. And anything that a liberal says is a lie to you.

[Kidlicious]

They spied on Russians (and others), Americans were talking to the Russians (and others) and got caught up incidentally ... and they shared that intel with the US.

None of which fits the description JN gave, which was that Obama asked them to spy on Americans.

We already know they targeted Trump associates. You are suffering cognitive dissonance

[rah]

If by "THEY" you mean russian agents, then yes we know that they targeted Trump associates.

[Kidlicious]

I was referring to mentally capable people, not people who think their conspiracy theories are absolute fact.

[-Jrabbit]

So you're recusing yourself from this discussion?

[rah]

We have a winner

[Kidlicious]

So you're recusing yourself from this discussion?

They admitted to targeting Trump associates and spying on them. I'm sorry that your mental illness is so bad.