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The FBI did do things wrong. A lot of things. They all signed off on a FISA application swearing that the information in said application had been verified and that they believed it to be true. They mislead the FISA court. They violated THEIR OWN GUIDELINES. Are you serious with this crap? You are protecting crooked government that is a danger to all of us. I want criminals investigated and justice served, but not like this. This is statism, WHICH YOU OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT!I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Now you're just Giuliani-ranting, throwing random, unfounded accusations out when you have no supporting evidence.
(Pro tip: Look up the definition of "statism" before attempting to use it in a sentence.)
How about a specific citation? C'mon Kid, who did what wrong on which FISA application? Are we talking Carter Page? Someone else?
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Already told you, there is no verified information in the application. The Dossier was never verified and they signed saying that it was. The judge was never told that Clinton paid for it. On and on. You are just going to keep insisting that they did nothing wrong though. You're a hack. There is another thread where I have posted a lot if stuff on this so I'm not going to keep repeating myself to a hack.
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None of the indictments have anything to do with Trump you idiot.Originally posted by Giancarlo View PostI drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Prove it. They didn't mislead the court at all. The court requires actual evidence. Not just words. You know so little about the legal system. Most of what you say is regurgitation from Fox News. You are protecting Trump and this criminal administration that is throwing millions of citizens under the bus. I want Trump imprisoned for all the crimes he has committed against this country and its people.Originally posted by Kidicious View PostFor there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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This is completely wrong. Many of the indictments and plea bargain are close friends and campaign staffers. Manafort was his friend for thirty plus years, and you are going to sit here and tell me it has nothing to so with him? Are you this blind? And calling me an idiot... Pot calling the kettle black!Originally posted by Kidicious View PostFor there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Or, expressed with other words ... the assumption that Trump, despite all this happening with persons of his inner circle, didn't know about anything, seems to be quite naive.
Especially if we take into account that he has a strong tendency towards controlling and micromanaging everything around him.
Not to forget the "strange" temporal connection between Trump urging russia (on a campaign rally) to hack Hillarys eMail server (in order to find the allegedly missing eMails) and an actual hacking attempt by russian hackers on Hillarys eMail serversLast edited by Proteus_MST; July 31, 2018, 10:04.Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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Unfortunately "strong tendency" is not enough to convict. Let hope there's something out there that can actually be used as evidence. There are enough people out there to turn but we'll see if that's enough. That's why I'm hoping for a money trail of something.It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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He knew of the meeting in Trump tower. That wasn't about adoptions lol. Kids head is going to implode now... Manaforts trial is going to start and in court there will be depositions. Trump will probably be called for it. The last time he was in a deposition... Total disaster for him.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Even more nice would be, if any of the allegedly 180 tapes (according to Giuliani) that were seized from Cohen, with recordings of conversations between him and Trump would contain enough evidence to convict Trump.Originally posted by rah View Post
Considering that Cohen was Trumps fixer, I assume that they had a lot of conversations that might be dangerous for Trump (and hopefully have been recorded by Cohen)Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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Isn't that kind of sleazy? Do you think they will sink to that level of moral depravity?.Originally posted by Proteus_MST View PostI drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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What level of moral depravity?Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
The tapes are possible evidence, so they surely will be used, especially if they have the cooperation of Cohen (and the tapes just serve to support testimony made by Cohen himself).
I am sure the FBI also would have used recorded conversations between Al Capone and his lawyer, if the 2 had talked about criminal activities that would have allowed them to indict Al Capone for more than tax avoidanceTamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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We aren't talking about Al Capone. That's a bad decision on your part to compare this to that situation because it shows your impartiality and willingness to support injustice.Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post
Clinton lied to a grand jury. He was impeached for that even though he was being investigated for Whitewater. He committed that crime while in office though, and it is a serious crime.
This is my point, Ken Star didn't resort to what you are hoping that Mueller do. Mueller had already crossed so many ethical lines it's ridiculous btw. He was appointed on the basis of the Comey firing. Rosenstein should have limited his scope, and at this point the investigation should be ended, because there was obviously no problem with firing Comey. So depending on whatever crime he finds on his witch hunt his credibility, and that of the DoJ, is going to sink to that low.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Yeah, I have no issue with using recordings. Anyone stupid enough to make them deserves to be burned by them. Regardless of their political party.
I'm more concerned about the moral depravity of the crimes committed.
But, like the Nixon tapes, I'm looking forward to them being released (eventually). Even if they don't offer up 100% evidence of wrong doing, I'm sure they will be enough to show Trump as he really is. How History treats him would probably be similar to Nixon.
It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Muslims are committing genocide against Christians in Nigeria. The NYT calls them "herdsman." The WaPo blames it on climate change.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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