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  • #61
    Originally posted by giblets View Post
    How long has Merkel been in charge in Germany... seems like forever.
    2005 ... when Bush jr. started his Iraq war, it was still Gerhard Schröder who gave the POTUS the cold shoulder, regarding joining the coalition of uncritical willing
    Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post

      And the talk obviously didn't go the way as Trump expected ...
      during the photo session Trump looked like a little schoolchild who didn't get the sweets he hoped for.
      Hopefully during the talk he was, at least, able learn a little bit about how true politicians behave
      That's nothing to aspire to. Politicians are the worst kind of people. I'm serious. They've done studies. Watching liberal politicians act offended about this should turn a stomach.
      Nope, offended that Trump dared to compare his own unproven (probably factual alternate) wiretapping claims with the real wiretapping that happened to her
      But, just like the reporrters, she decided to just take it as a joke
      Evidence? It looked like a real smile. The laughter sounded real.
      Last edited by Kidlicious; March 18, 2017, 05:45.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
        That's nothing to aspire to. Politicians are the worst kind of people. I'm serious. They've done studies. Watching liberal politicians act offended about this should turn a stomach.
        Well, watching Trump and his inner circle of amateur politicians smashing diplomatic porcelain and wreaking havoc while trying to push their agenda through by means of the sledgehammer method makes me appreciate "real politicians" much more than I have before.
        A true politician as POTUS surely wouldn't make baseless (and offending) claims just because of something he has heard someone say on a TV morning magazine.
        And surely a true politician would not, after making baseless wiretapping allegations toward one of the countries oldest allies, repeat those allegation, after his dipomatic corps has tried to apologze and repair the damage done.

        When Trump and his circle of amateur politicians leave the white house (either after impeachment, or because of not getting reelected after 4 years) it will surely take true politicians 8 years or more in order to repair he damages that have been done.

        (That doesn't mean that I don't think that a non politician may be able to do better than true poliiticians, if he really took his time to understand the web of power ... and then tried to exrt his influence by carefly pulling those strings.
        But Trump doesn't even try to understand the clockwork of politics a little bit ... instead he is rather like a little rich spoiled kid that is playing pretend to be the POTUS ... instead of carefully pulling strings in order to reach his goals he thinks he can push everything through via EOs and then sits in a corner and sulks, if the checks and balances that make up a democracy prevent him from pushing through with it ... and instead of thinking before talking he takes every conspiracy theory, he hears in right wing TV channels, for true and then tells the whole world about it.
        I would normally say: Let him take some time and learn. But the problem seems to be that Trump doesn't ant to learn ... it seems like in his "career" he has surrounded himself for all too long with yes-persons and now cannot stand criticism / something not working as he wishes)

        Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
        Evidence? It looked like a real smile. The laughter sounded real.
        Before she decided that a smile would be t he best answer, she looked quite irritated.
        Weren't she the experienced diplomat/politician she is, I am sure she would have burst out in laughter
        Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
        Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post

          Well, watching Trump and his inner circle of amateur politicians smashing diplomatic porcelain and wreaking havoc while trying to push their agenda through by means of the sledgehammer method makes me appreciate "real politicians" much more than I have before.
          A true politician as POTUS surely wouldn't make baseless (and offending) claims just because of something he has heard someone say on a TV morning magazine.
          And surely a true politician would not, after making baseless wiretapping allegations toward one of the countries oldest allies, repeat those allegation, after his dipomatic corps has tried to apologze and repair the damage done.

          When Trump and his circle of amateur politicians leave the white house (either after impeachment, or because of not getting reelected after 4 years) it will surely take true politicians 8 years or more in order to repair he damages that have been done.

          (That doesn't mean that I don't think that a non politician may be able to do better than true poliiticians, if he really took his time to understand the web of power ... and then tried to exrt his influence by carefly pulling those strings.
          But Trump doesn't even try to understand the clockwork of politics a little bit ... instead he is rather like a little rich spoiled kid that is playing pretend to be the POTUS ... instead of carefully pulling strings in order to reach his goals he thinks he can push everything through via EOs and then sits in a corner and sulks, if the checks and balances that make up a democracy prevent him from pushing through with it ... and instead of thinking before talking he takes every conspiracy theory, he hears in right wing TV channels, for true and then tells the whole world about it.
          I would normally say: Let him take some time and learn. But the problem seems to be that Trump doesn't ant to learn ... it seems like in his "career" he has surrounded himself for all too long with yes-persons and now cannot stand criticism / something not working as he wishes)
          Not true. McCain just accused a colleague of working for Putin the other day, and the democrats have done as much, and pretty much everyday as far as I can tell. They give "horrible" new meaning. Your constant criticism of Trump, as though career politicians didn't do the exact same thing, says much about you.

          Before she decided that a smile would be t he best answer, she looked quite irritated.
          Weren't she the experienced diplomat/politician she is, I am sure she would have burst out in laughter
          Please post evidence that she looked "quite irritated."

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
            Not true. McCain just accused a colleague of working for Putin the other day, and the democrats have done as much, and pretty much everyday as far as I can tell. They give "horrible" new meaning. Your constant criticism of Trump, as though career politicians didn't do the exact same thing, says much about you.
            I thought Trump, as no career politician, is supposed to be better than career politicians

            Also AFAIK (if we call the last 3 presidents of the united states career politicians) none of Trumps immediate predecessors did waste millions of money by spending each weekend in his own luxury golf resort (thereby not only creating traveling costs within a month that are equal to Obamas traveling costs within a year, but also incurring further costs for the lodging and feeding of all of his staff).

            Same goes for his wife and kid ... for the protection of his wife and kid the state has rented a whole luxury story in Trump Tower that consumes massive costs.

            Just imagine the ****storm (surely also by Trump himself) if Michelle would have argued that she rather wants to stay at home (instead of Washington) in order to prevent that her Kids have to move to another school (and thereby would have incurred similar costs for her protection)

            The planned budget of Trump has massive cuts, among others, in welfare programs. Isn't it obscene that Trump has the state spend so much money for his own entertainment (i.e. luxury golf resot every weekend) and for the security of Melania and Barron in New York (which could be protected with less costs in Washington) while at the same time proposing massive cuts to social/welfare programs?
            I would assume that feeding the poor is more important than the entertainment of the president
            (and I should remind you that Trump (if the first 2 monhs are an ndication) currently is on the best way to become the most wasteful president of the last 3 decades when it comes to his own household (traveling, protection, upkeep))


            Furthermore:
            Trump argued that he, as no career politician, wants to drain the swamp.

            Both, the Trump Tower as well as the Mar a Lago golf resort are possessions of Trumps own company. That means that all (or a large percentage of the) costs spent by the state for the protection of Melania, as well as for Trumps entertainment (and protection) at the golf resort flow into Trumps own pockets.

            Shouldn't one, if one wants to drain a swamp, start with himself?


            Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
            Please post evidence that she looked "quite irritated."
            Sure, look at ~ 0:29 in this video (which is the moment when Trump finished his "this is what we have in common, perhaps"):
            https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ng-obama-video

            Angie looked quite perplexed into his direction aftr he made his claim
            Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
            Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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            • #66
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              Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post

              I thought Trump, as no career politician, is supposed to be better than career politicians

              Also AFAIK (if we call the last 3 presidents of the united states career politicians) none of Trumps immediate predecessors did waste millions of money by spending each weekend in his own luxury golf resort (thereby not only creating traveling costs within a month that are equal to Obamas traveling costs within a year, but also incurring further costs for the lodging and feeding of all of his staff).

              Same goes for his wife and kid ... for the protection of his wife and kid the state has rented a whole luxury story in Trump Tower that consumes massive costs.

              Just imagine the ****storm (surely also by Trump himself) if Michelle would have argued that she rather wants to stay at home (instead of Washington) in order to prevent that her Kids have to move to another school (and thereby would have incurred similar costs for her protection)

              The planned budget of Trump has massive cuts, among others, in welfare programs. Isn't it obscene that Trump has the state spend so much money for his own entertainment (i.e. luxury golf resot every weekend) and for the security of Melania and Barron in New York (which could be protected with less costs in Washington) while at the same time proposing massive cuts to social/welfare programs?
              I would assume that feeding the poor is more important than the entertainment of the president
              (and I should remind you that Trump (if the first 2 monhs are an ndication) currently is on the best way to become the most wasteful president of the last 3 decades when it comes to his own household (traveling, protection, upkeep))


              Furthermore:
              Trump argued that he, as no career politician, wants to drain the swamp.

              Both, the Trump Tower as well as the Mar a Lago golf resort are possessions of Trumps own company. That means that all (or a large percentage of the) costs spent by the state for the protection of Melania, as well as for Trumps entertainment (and protection) at the golf resort flow into Trumps own pockets.

              Shouldn't one, if one wants to drain a swamp, start with himself?




              Sure, look at ~ 0:29 in this video (which is the moment when Trump finished his "this is what we have in common, perhaps"):
              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ng-obama-video

              Angie looked quite perplexed into his direction aftr he made his claim
              Look, this whole colluding with Russia is made up by the Hillary campaign, leftist media, and even the intelligence community (in part).

              There were multiple reports of surveillance in the mainstream media. This is nothing but horse manure.

              And the point in the video where you claim she was "quite irritated" her face is turned the other way. I think it is your imagination.
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              • #67
                One would think that it would be perfectly fine for YouTube to flag LGBT propaganda so that parents can prevent the LGBT community from brainwashing their children.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                  I

                  Look, this whole colluding with Russia is made up by the Hillary campaign, leftist media, and even the intelligence community (in part).

                  There were multiple reports of surveillance in the mainstream media. This is nothing but horse manure.
                  Then there's nothing to fear and Trump should encourage them to investigate all they want.
                  Instead, he acts like a child caught in the act.
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                  • #69
                    One would think that it would be perfectly fine for Kid to flag his posts as alt-right propaganda so that posters can prevent the community from brainwashing.
                    Blah

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post

                      Then there's nothing to fear and Trump should encourage them to investigate all they want.
                      Instead, he acts like a child caught in the act.
                      Only a cuck would encourage a witch hunt against themselves.
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                      • #71
                        No, it's common among innocent people too.
                        It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                        • #72
                          Using a made-up pejorative like "cuck" is not an argument. All it does is to show your embrace of the alt-reich.



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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post
                            Using a made-up pejorative like "cuck" is not an argument. All it does is to show your embrace of the alt-reich.


                            Calling people Nazi for using words doesn't help you.
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                            • #74
                              Fake News (delivered to you by Donald Trump on Nov. 16, 2016):


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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post
                                Quotation marks matter.

                                That said, it's stupid to do this.
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