Fake News Reporting Thread

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailywire.com/news/18546/03-refugees-who-flooded-sweden-now-have-jobs-joseph-curl%3famp

The three years after the surge of fake refugee fraudster only 0.3% in Sweden have a job. Sweden has much stricter rules about what people must do to be counted as being employed and unlike in Germany working 1 hour per year does not count.

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I don't dispute that there are problems with refugeees (which, btw. is double sided ... there have also been idiots on the german side, who throw stones at refugee or refugee homes, or try to set them ablaze). I also don't dispute that there were failures that have been made (for example Merkel, at the beginning of the refugee crisis, letting people in withoe deportation plane ... it ut too many checks, was a failure ... likewise the process of deportation is a little bit clumsy and could be improved (currently, for example, a deportee can resist deportation (for some while) by just refusing to fasten his seatblets in the deportation plane ... IMHO it should be possible, in this case, to just handcuff him and fasten the seatblets for him)

But in contrast to youi, I don't try to blow the problem out of proportion, just in order to justify my xenophobia

Your first problem is you continue to lie and pretend they are refugees when it is absolutely certain virtually none of them are. You need to stop lying.

Also the main problem is most of them have little to often no forum education, no skills, and no desire to work. When asked if they want to work in Nigeria for $2 a day or get free housing, free food, and we'll over $1000 a month not working in Germany virtually all will take the later. Cheating the welfare system is their primary goal and, no, they do not qualify, not even remotely, as actual refugees and most of them simply lie to get that gold welfare for life ticket.

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Your first problem is you continue to lie and pretend they are refugees when it is absolutely certain virtually none of them are. You need to stop lying.

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In contrast to you,I back my claims up with official statistics

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"More than half of the able-bodied unemployment benefit receivers at present are of foreign descent," Der Spiegel reported on April 10, 2018.

THAT is why they are coming. Not to work. Not to "seek refuge". They are liars, con artists, and thieves who have figured out they can get something for nothing and never have to work ever again in their life time. Worse, they know your average German is too stupid and too consumed with guilt from stuff that happened three or four dgenerations ago to call them on their b.s..

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https://m.focus.de/finanzen/news/fluechtlingskrise-die-loesung-empfiehlt-star-oekonom-hans-werner-sinn_id_8739986.html

Germany's most famous economist and a rare German who actually is speaking truth backed up by data. The fact is they come because they can have a higher standard of living not working in Europe than they could ever have where they came from. That is their primary motivation and nothing else.

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"More than half of the able-bodied unemployment benefit receivers at present are of foreign descent," Der Spiegel reported on April 10, 2018.

THAT is why they are coming. Not to work. Not to "seek refuge". They are liars, con artists, and thieves who have figured out they can get something for nothing and never have to work ever again in their life time. Worse, they know your average German is too stupid and too consumed with guilt from stuff that happened three or four dgenerations ago to call them on their b.s..

Uhm remember ... until the asylum procedure has successfully finished, the applicant isn't allowed to work.
So, no matter whether Asylum applicants are willing to work or not, they aren't allowed to and have to rely on welfare ... which meant quite a long time for those coming in 2015 and later, due to the huge workload the asylum bureaus had/have to stem (while being totally underfunded for this task)

I don't dispute that there are lots of fake asylum seekers (even in my numbers, if there are 50% people who have their request denied, it means that 50% are fake).
BUT the solution cannot be (like you seem to envision) to just turn all asylum seekers away at the borders and not let them in.

Instead the process of dividing true asylum seekers from fake ones has to be sped up and deportation has to be made easier.
For example by:

• Better funding of the Asylum agencies
• Having a central european asylum seeker database with bioprofiling (i.e. fingerprints, retina scans and the like) of denied applicants
• Distributing the asylum seekers fairly among the EU states
• Putting political pressure on Maghreb states to be faster with providing papers for deportees who lost theirs (or willfully destroyed them)

There were hundreds of thousands of people who were saved from probable death in Syria (and other war torn territories), thanks to EU refugee politics ... and this is a good thing

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I'm confused, are they coming to take our jerbs or are they lazy bums who won't work? :confussedXenophobe:

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They are Lazy who jerbs coming to steal our won't bums!

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http://m.dw.com/en/when-refugees-wan...any/a-18737104

After 15 months they can. 2018 - 2015 = 3 years. 3 year >> 15 months. They could get jobs except... 1) Most of them don't even have a high school diploma. 2) Most of them have absolutely no transferable job skills. 3) Despite three years of free language classes most of them haven't bothered and will never bother because they are very happy just sitting on welfare. 4) They are lazy ****s who really did just come for the free welfare goodies.

THAT is why they traveled through half a dozen safe countries only to head straight for the welfare jackpot in places like Germany and Sweden. Face it, lying politicians like Merkel played you like the fool you are and you bought their nonsense hook, line, and sinker. Or are you still ignorant enough to believe they are educated doctors and lawyers who will work and pay for your retirement pension. Even Merkels worthless party now admits at least 75% will be on benefits for life. The really number will be much, much higher. It is hard to get people to work when they didn't come to work and they think HARTZ4 is the best standard of living they or anyone they know has ever experienced.

The best thing Denmark did since 2015 was slash welfare for able bodied asylum seekers. That made the moochers not want to stay in Denmark. That is an all around win for Danes.

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They are Lazy who jerbs coming to steal our won't bums!

Are you stupid? Did you even understand that in places like Sweden 99.7% are unemployed despite having the legal ability to work? They are mostly unemployable and most have no desire to work as welfare in the West truly is 1,000 better than they could ever earn working in their own 3rd world ****hole. They aren't fleeing for safety; they are welfare migrants plain and simple. Nothing more.

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I'm not even going to dignify that with a proper response.I dunno where you get your news from, but you should switch to a more trustworthy source.
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If you had bothered to read any of the half dozen links I have provided in this very thread then you wouldn't be so ignorant about the facts. Now would you?

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The number comes from the Swedish employment agency and the Swedish migration authority, Migrationsverket. A link was provided above.