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  • Trump promises healthcare for everyone!

    It's ok, it turns out Trump wants to give healthcare to everyone and with lower deductibles too!

    President-elect Donald Trump says he’s putting the finishing touches on his plan to replace Obamacare.
    It sounds absolutely terrific, like the best health plan ever!

    It also sounds wildly out of step with what Republicans in Congress, or even some of Trump’s own advisers, have said they would like to do.
    Trump’s comments, which he made in an interview with The Washington Post that appeared Sunday, could mean he’s gone rogue and decided that, at least on health care policy, he has more in common with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) than House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.).

    Or they could mean that, in reaction to public anxiety and recent protests over the possibility of more than 20 million people losing insurance, Trump is already misleading people about what he and his Republicans are planning to do.

    Or Trump’s statements could mean that he has no idea what he’s talking about.

    Speaking to the Post’s Robert Costa, Trump said his new health care plan would mean “insurance for everybody” with “much lower deductibles.”

    Also, Trump said, he will call for the government to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies directly, forcing them to lower their prices.

    They’re politically protected but not anymore,” Trump said of the drug industry.


    Trump didn’t offer more details about what he has in mind, or give a precise date for when his plan would be ready for the public to see. But, he said, “It’s very much formulated down to the final strokes. We haven’t put it in quite yet but we’re going to be doing it soon.”

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    Except for CNN, no healthcare for them!

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    • #3
      Well, did he make any promises about the quality of the healthcare?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
        Well, did he make any promises about the quality of the healthcare?
        I'm fairly sure he will have described it as the best healthcare in the world, just great, great healthcare.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kentonio View Post
          It's ok, it turns out Trump wants to give healthcare to everyone and with lower deductibles too!
           

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          • #6
            Obamacare is a huge let down at best. The argument that we are better off now because the growth of healthcare expense has slowed is bs, especially since we lost freedoms because of this and the federal government is bigger and more powerful than ever.

            I guess hope for the best. Something sure needs to be done about Big Pharma. That's a start.
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            • #7
              It's not all that implausible. Only Nixon could go to China, as the saying goes, and it's not like Donald has any fixed principles or anything. Dangerous socialism from a Clinton and a black man with a Muslim name could become wise statecraft and unexpected bipartisanship from a man who has solidly allied himself with Red Tribe and hates college professors.
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              • #8
                What was that communist college prof's username that you got along with so well?
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                • #9
                  Agathon.
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                  • #10
                    I think it's hilarious that the same people complaining about how Trump lies all the time, seem to be taking this healthcare pronouncement seriously.
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                    • #11
                      Do you mean on here or IRL? It's probably BS, like most everything he says, but I say that only based on his signal-to-noise ratio; he says a great deal more than he could ever practically accomplish. It's unclear whether his endless contradictory claims in general reflect truly arbitrary brain-farts or a deliberate scheme to keep everyone perpetually confused and off-balanced. Or some mix of the two. Certainly any one particular claim is impossible to judge at this point. He might not even have a specific plan for where to go with it. It's possible that he works by endlessly spewing whatever inflammatory gibberish comes into his head and choosing some to follow up on entirely based on what kind of a reaction he gets. He is, after all, our Tweeter in Chief.

                      But there's no political reason he's necessarily lying about this. Working-class whites have no problem with free stuff per se, and Donald appears immune to criticism from most everyone outside his base.
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                      • #12
                        Or they could mean that, in reaction to public anxiety and recent protests over the possibility of more than 20 million people losing insurance, Trump is already misleading people about what he and his Republicans are planning to do.
                        Unless Trump's eliminating Medicaid, then I don't see how 20 million people would lose their insurance. A majority of those signed onto 'Obamacare' signed up for Medicaid.

                        That being said, O-care is a dog. I hope Trump eliminates the mandate. There's lots of different ways to lower the cost of healthcare that have been proposed. Obamacare has done very little for Americans.

                        One way Trump could do it is to eliminate everyone qualifies for coverage. If you capped coverage at a specific point, you could have some healthcare for everyone.
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                        • #13
                          Trump has hinted that he's doing away with the Medicaid expansion. Presumably to be replaced by [replacement].

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                          • #14
                            My guess for the near future is that, as I work two part-time jobs that don't offer health insurance, I'm about to get ****ed.
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                            • #15
                              Where did Trump say anything about Medicaid? I saw him wanting to dump the mandate, which would be great, but not Medicaid.
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