Trump promises healthcare for everyone!

[rah]

Well if you're healthy for a year and paying for insurance you're technically paying for someone else's care in the same risk pool.

[kentonio]

Don't care as long as I don't have to pay for their insurance.

Wow, right wing Americaans really are money obsessed *******s lacking in any human compassion.

[Kidlicious]

Wow, right wing Americaans really are money obsessed *******s lacking in any human compassion.

Same old bs tactic that doesn't work. Try something new.

[Kidlicious]

Well if you're healthy for a year and paying for insurance you're technically paying for someone else's care in the same risk pool.

So what? If I want to pay for mental health insurance and I don't need to see a doctor then that's the same as what you're talking about. But Obamacare forces me to buy insurance that I don't need.

[rah]

I think of it as the similar to auto insurance. I technically don't need it but I'm forced to buy it. It helps everyone in the long run.
But you are correct in that it's the question up for debate, Should health care be a right guaranteed by the government. The debate will go on.

But once you agree that it should be, (and I know you're not) then complaining about paying for gender specific items seems a bit silly.,

[Kidlicious]

I think of it as the similar to auto insurance. I technically don't need it but I'm forced to buy it. It helps everyone in the long run.
But you are correct in that it's the question up for debate, Should health care be a right guaranteed by the government. The debate will go on.

But once you agree that it should be, (and I know you're not) then complaining about paying for gender specific items seems a bit silly.,

No people need auto insurance to pay for accidents that they cause. Not everyone has money to pay for that. Forcing men to get insurance that only women need is clearly different. And it doesn't help everyone. It helps women (that may get pregnant), and it hurts men and women who don't need that.

[kentonio]

Same old bs tactic that doesn't work. Try something new.

All you give a **** about is cold hard cash, so don't expect anyone to give a **** about you in return *******.

[Kidlicious]

All you give a **** about is cold hard cash, so don't expect anyone to give a **** about you in return *******.

I care about people's rights and my country. I don't like little tyrants like you. Piss off.

[rah]

No people need auto insurance to pay for accidents that they cause. Not everyone has money to pay for that. Forcing men to get insurance that only women need is clearly different. And it doesn't help everyone. It helps women (that may get pregnant), and it hurts men and women who don't need that.

There are men specific illness also. There are also some racial related diseases also. I think it's ridiculous to try to break it out like that. And to be honest since I'm married I do directly benefit anyway.

[Kidlicious]

There are men specific illness also. There are also some racial related diseases also. I think it's ridiculous to try to break it out like that. And to be honest since I'm married I do directly benefit anyway.

The thing is that if people are going to get free healthcare it should be the minimum. If you want more than that pay for it yourself.

[Kidlicious]

And if your wife isn't going to be having any babies or needing mental health you don't benefit from it.

[Kidlicious]

I would bet a dollar that liberals use mental health services more. Look at how Obama cries in public all the time. You can tell me that's normal but I think he is more likely to pay for mental health coverage.

[rah]

Well that is part of the actual discussion. Some feel that way. What's actually right is anybody's guess.
I'm somewhat in agreement, There should be a minimum but you should be able to buy supplemental like with medicare.
What should be the minimum though? I think reproduction should be included since it is one of the most basic health issues.
Obviously you feel differently.

And the discussion is hard enough, that the personal attacks should be removed from the table if there is any hope of an honest discussion.

[Kidlicious]

Well that is part of the actual discussion. Some feel that way. What's actually right is anybody's guess.
I'm somewhat in agreement, There should be a minimum but you should be able to buy supplemental like with medicare.
What should be the minimum though? I think reproduction should be included since it is one of the most basic health issues.
Obviously you feel differently.

And the discussion is hard enough, that the personal attacks should be removed from the table if there is any hope of an honest discussion.

That actually wasn't a personal attack. Liberals think the government can give out free stuff. It can't.

[Kidlicious]

Something like 80% of people were happy with their healthcare plan before Obamacare. Obamacare is a sales job. You think it's basic because that's what they told you.