A victory for polands women

[rah]

Hey, I just did a poll of Poles of my facebook polish friends and they confirmed that a majority want to ban abortion.

You've actually used similar type claims to support many of your arguments. And they sounded just as silly as you make this one sound.

[N35t0r]

400k people in a petition is a lot. We didn't get that many against the Hated Sales tax.

400k people over a 40M population is 1%

[kentonio]

I'm fairly sure we could find 400k Americans who think all Canadian immigrants should **** off back to Canuckistan.

[Ben Kenobi]

You've actually used similar type claims to support many of your arguments. And they sounded just as silly as you make this one sound.

One poll without any the specifics is just as meaningful as my facebook poll.

[Ben Kenobi]

400k people over a 40M population is 1%

The threshold was 100k, and the source cited by Proteus cites that the pro abortion counter petition only got half of that. 400k for a petition, any petition, shows broad and deep support for banning abortion in Poland.

[Ben Kenobi]

I'm fairly sure we could find 400k Americans who think all Canadian immigrants should **** off back to Canuckistan.

Well, considering that we pay taxes, speak English and teach your children to love America, you might have trouble with that.

[kentonio]

Well, considering that we pay taxes, speak English and teach your children to love America, you might have trouble with that.

I wouldn't let you within 200 miles of my (theoretical) kids, let alone let you teach them.

[rah]

One poll without any the specifics is just as meaningful as my facebook poll.

And just as meaningless, which was my point. Yet you continue to use similar things.
Your one gay friend.
Your one black friend. etc.

[-Jrabbit]

So glad to see that we can have the exact same conversation in yet another thread.

[N35t0r]

Nope, I fail to see why it's a victory for Poland when a majority of Poles voted to ban abortion outright.

Your source does not say that.

Look, if you're going to lie, at least provide a credible source that actually says what you are claiming it says.

[N35t0r]

lol, your own posts work against themselves.

[N35t0r]

The threshold was 100k,

So under your premise, the majority of poles want to ban abortion and also want to deregulate abortion. At the same time.

. 400k for a petition, any petition, shows broad and deep support for banning abortion in Poland.

lol

[Proteus_MST]

One poll without any the specifics is just as meaningful as my facebook poll.

Well, I can give you the polls from CBOS which is (the AFAIK largest) independent opinion research institute in poland ...
with data collected in March/April among 1034 poles as a representative sample of the population. Much more trustworthy than any polls you make among your friends

As an english speaking summary:

http://www.cbos.pl/EN/publications/reports/2016/051_16.pdf

And as the original:

http://www.cbos.pl/SPISKOM.POL/2016/K_051_16.PDF

And its google-powered translation:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbos.pl%2FSPISKOM.POL%2F2016%2FK_051_16.PDF&edit-text=

To sum the most important result up:
The current abortion law in poland supports legal abortion in 4 circumstances:
Rape, Danger to mothers health or life and if the child will be bnorn disabled

And in all 4 categories more than 50% of the respondents want that abortion remains legal

And that`s the difference, Ben, in contrast to you I try to work with real numbers ... and not with numbers I just made up on the spot

[pchang]

I'm fairly sure we could find 400k Americans who think all Canadian immigrants should **** off back to Canuckistan.

Well, over 4 million Americans voted for Trump in the primaries.......

[self biased]

Well, I can give you the polls from CBOS which is (the AFAIK largest) independent opinion research institute in poland ...
with data collected in March/April among 1034 poles as a representative sample of the population. Much more trustworthy than any polls you make among your friends

As an english speaking summary:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbos.pl%2FSPISKOM.POL%2F2016%2FK_051_16.PDF&edit-text=

And as the original:

http://www.cbos.pl/SPISKOM.POL/2016/K_051_16.PDF

And its google-powered translation:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbos.pl%2FSPISKOM.POL%2F2016%2FK_051_16.PDF&edit-text=

To sum the most important result up:
The current abortion law in poland supports legal abortion in 4 circumstances:
Rape, Danger to mothers health or life and if the child will be bnorn disabled

And in all 4 categories more than 50% of the respondents want that abortion remains legal

And that`s the difference, Ben, in contrast to you I try to work with real numbers ... and not with numbers I just made up on the spot

to be fair though, I do think you're the bigger idiot for arguing with ben in the first place.

which is a shame, really because I think you're an otherwise intelligent person whose posts i usually look forward to.