Unofficial Apolyton Predicts

[Bereta_Eder]

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Ok that was hilariously funny

[Alexander's Horse]

The Dems are to blame for the terrible turnout. They put up Hillary.
Don't blame the voters for not wanting to vote for her. She was a terrible candidate.

Totally agree again, she was simply an awful pick, machine politics at its worst.

[rah]

WE'll see if they learn from this disaster. But probably not.

[Thoth]

WE'll see if they learn from this disaster. But probably not.

Based on what I've seen in my FB newsfeed the answer is "no they havent". Anyone who dislikes Clinton is a misogynist, and anyone who supports Trump is a racist, sexist ****bag.

And almost no acknowledgement that Clinton was a ****ty candidate and that the hubris of the Democratic Party insiders lost the election.

[Jon Miller]

And that they should focus more on the working class (and racial minorities).

JM

[Thoth]

And that they should focus more on the working class (and racial minorities).

JM

It's been a lot of years since the Democratic party represented the working class.

[rah]

They still represent Unions.

[kentonio]

Based on what I've seen in my FB newsfeed the answer is "no they havent". Anyone who dislikes Clinton is a misogynist, and anyone who supports Trump is a racist, sexist ****bag.

And almost no acknowledgement that Clinton was a ****ty candidate and that the hubris of the Democratic Party insiders lost the election.

On the upside there's a lot of people on the left ready to engage in some brutal bloodletting in the DNC, and who now have some particularly powerful ammunition to do it with.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

38% of American workers make less than $20k per year according to this, and 60% less than $40k per year.

Clinton had no message for them, other than "America is already great!, enjoy what you have as you will have even more of the same!"

[PLATO]

On the upside there's a lot of people on the left ready to engage in some brutal bloodletting in the DNC, and who now have some particularly powerful ammunition to do it with.

My hope is that both parties will begin to move more to the center. In spite of all the rhetoric, I think Trump is probably a lot more centrist than a lot of the Republican candidates.

The government spends a lot of time talking about "extremists" overseas, but the people fail to realize that both parties are producing more "extremists" than I can ever remember.

[kentonio]

My hope is that both parties will begin to move more to the center. In spite of all the rhetoric, I think Trump is probably a lot more centrist than a lot of the Republican candidates.

The government spends a lot of time talking about "extremists" overseas, but the people fail to realize that both parties are producing more "extremists" than I can ever remember.

In the Democrats case, that also means moving left.

[giblets]

38% of American workers make less than $20k per year according to this, and 60% less than $40k per year.

Clinton had no message for them, other than "America is already great!, enjoy what you have as you will have even more of the same!"

That's not really true, she did have policy ideas, they just were completely ignored.

[Jon Miller]

She had policy ideas.

She just focused on SJ issues and 'first woman president' issues and being Anti-Trump and didn't actually reach out to the depressed workers in the Rust Belt.

JM

[Kidlicious]

That's not really true, she did have policy ideas, they just were completely ignored.

That happens when you keep flip flopping.

[notyoueither]

She had policy ideas.

She just focused on SJ issues and 'first woman president' issues and being Anti-Trump and didn't actually reach out to the depressed workers in the Rust Belt.

JM

What did she have to offer them other than more of the same?