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  • West Virginia - Robert Byrd (D)
    West Virginia - Jennings Randolph (D)

    Missouri - Scott Symington (D)
    Missouri - Edward V. Long (D)

    Mississippi - James Eastland (D)
    Mississippi - John Stennis (D)

    Alabama - Joseph Lister Hill (D)
    Alabama - John J. Sparkman (D)

    Tennessee - Estes Kefauver (D)
    Tennessee - Albert Gore Sr (D)

    South Carolina - Strom Thurmond (D)
    South Carolina - Olin D. Johnson (D)

    North Carolina - Sam Ervin (D)
    North Caroina - B. Everett Jordan (D)

    Louisiana - Allan Joseph Ellender (D)
    Louisiana - Russell B Long (D)

    Georgia - Richard Brevard Russell (D)
    Georgia - Herman E. Talmadge (D)

    Florida - Spessard Holland (D)
    Florida - George Smathers (D)

    Virginia - Harry Flood Bird (D)
    Virginia - Absalom Willis Robertson (D)

    Texas - Ralph Yarborough (D)
    Texas - William A. Blakely (D)

    Oklahoma - Robert S. Kerr (D)
    Oklahoma - Mike Monroney (D)

    New Mexico - Dennis Wyatt Chavez (D)
    New Mexico - Clinton Presba Anderson (D)

    Arkansas - John Little McLelland (D)
    Arkansas - J. William Fulbright (D)

    I gotta be honest with you - I'm not seeing very many Republicans here on this list.
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    • Gee BK... I notice you didn't include California on your list of Southern States
      Keep on Civin'
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      • Gee BK... I notice you didn't include California on your list of Southern States
        Not all of California is southern. There's northern California too, and I don't want to taint them by association with the Southern Democrats like Giancarlo. After all - California senators get votes from all of California.

        They are also known for being the home of such solid progressives like Nixon and Reagan who believed in racial equality.
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        • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
          West Virginia - Robert Byrd (D)
          West Virginia - Jennings Randolph (D)

          Missouri - Scott Symington (D)
          Missouri - Edward V. Long (D)

          Mississippi - James Eastland (D)
          Mississippi - John Stennis (D)

          Alabama - Joseph Lister Hill (D)
          Alabama - John J. Sparkman (D)

          Tennessee - Estes Kefauver (D)
          Tennessee - Albert Gore Sr (D)

          South Carolina - Strom Thurmond (D)
          South Carolina - Olin D. Johnson (D)

          North Carolina - Sam Ervin (D)
          North Caroina - B. Everett Jordan (D)

          Louisiana - Allan Joseph Ellender (D)
          Louisiana - Russell B Long (D)

          Georgia - Richard Brevard Russell (D)
          Georgia - Herman E. Talmadge (D)

          Florida - Spessard Holland (D)
          Florida - George Smathers (D)

          Virginia - Harry Flood Bird (D)
          Virginia - Absalom Willis Robertson (D)

          Texas - Ralph Yarborough (D)
          Texas - William A. Blakely (D)

          Oklahoma - Robert S. Kerr (D)
          Oklahoma - Mike Monroney (D)

          New Mexico - Dennis Wyatt Chavez (D)
          New Mexico - Clinton Presba Anderson (D)

          Arkansas - John Little McLelland (D)
          Arkansas - J. William Fulbright (D)

          I gotta be honest with you - I'm not seeing very many Republicans here on this list.
          And he does a selective idiot list because he is a selective idiot. Strom Thurmond became a proud card carrying Republican afterwards.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
            Not all of California is southern. There's northern California too, and I don't want to taint them by association with the Southern Democrats like Giancarlo. After all - California senators get votes from all of California.

            They are also known for being the home of such solid progressives like Nixon and Reagan.
            You truly are a piece of ****.

            I am not part of any political party you piss ant.

            California is a west coast state. It isn't part of the southern dumpster you live in.

            California is known for real progressives like Jerry Brown, Eric Garcetti, and Nancy Pelosi. Texas... Ted ****ing Cruz.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • Strom Thurmond is a key example of the paradigm shift. In 1964, he became a republican for life. Racists running to the other party!!!!
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • And he does a selective idiot list because he is a selective idiot. Strom Thurmond became a proud card carrying Republican afterwards.
                The southern senate was 30-0, Democrat. Pretty hard to have a southern Republican when you don't actually have any southern republicans.
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                • California is a west coast state. It isn't part of the southern dumpster you live in.
                  You should be proud to have such luminaries as Reagan and Nixon representing California and their progressive attitudes towards racial equality. Thank goodness for the moderating effect of Northern California and San Francisco.
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                  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                    And what if your connection fails, you get jammed, etc? There will always be a role for pilots even if they are fighting alongside drones.
                    No, there won't. If you can jam communications to a modern fighter then it's largely ****ed anyway, they are wildly dependant on communication and signals intelligence. Humans have immense limitations that machines don't, and risking human lives is something that will become increasingly unpalatable.

                    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                    They don't have the manpower to knock China out without employing Nukes. Sure, they could probably hold South Korea. China could afford to lose millions of men in the process, and would be willing to step up to nuclear weapons if the US tried to conquer it. They could probably beat Russia, but again, you have terrain and logistics issue. If Russia were to try to steamroll western Europe, they could definitely stalemate Russia, but I don't see that the US could defeat them.
                    What you just did there was fall back onto the nuclear option, which is the reason the major powers don't actually fight direct existential wars. As for defeating Russia, take nukes out of the equation and Russia is outdated, under equipped and out teched in almost every department.

                    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                    And England too, once had an Empire - which died on the fields of the Somme. You need people to 'spread influence', and the Chinese don't have them to spare. They are cresting now, because of the developments of the previous years - but they have a shortage of 5 million people in their workforce, year over year. Their labor costs are going to increase to the point where it will be more expensive to hire Chinese people than Americans. There's a reason many industries have relocated elsewhere in Asia, to Thailand, Vietnam, the Philippines.
                    Britain's empire (not England idiot) didnt die on the fields of the Somme, it died after 6 years of the subsequent war. As for China not having people to spare, that's just nonsensical considering they are the single most populous nation on the planet. Not that it matters because in the modern age if you can afford to buy foreign companies (and China absolutely can) you can just get other populations to do your grunt work, which is what the US has spent decades doing.

                    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                    China could not beat India, straight up. Just can't. India is going to become a superpower even if they take their time getting there - they will be in a much better position than China.
                    China can't beat India because they're both nuclear powers. I'm a firm believer that India will become a superpower in time, but China is a very real danger to India's future unless things are handled very carefully. I'm not talking about a Chinese invasion or anything so dramatic, but if China seize hegemony over the Far East, they could seriously hurt India's growth potential.

                    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                    Sorry. Development is essential at maintaining that gap. You don't keep a gap by stopping investment.
                    Obviously, but it was at the point where the only thing vast American investment was doing was making its own equipment obsolete, while other nations were still several generations behind. That's lovely if you don't need the money for anything else, but very stupid if you have tens of millions of people without health coverage, a huge national debt and the other countries are just focusing on stealing your technology anyway.

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                    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                      The southern senate was 30-0, Democrat. Pretty hard to have a southern Republican when you don't actually have any southern republicans.
                      Many were in the House loser. You are too stupid to even have a discussion on this.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        You should be proud to have such luminaries as Reagan and Nixon representing California and their progressive attitudes towards racial equality.
                        ****ing moron. Nixon was the one who invented the Southern Strategy which they admitted later was all about harnessing racism in the south. Then again you are just trolling now, so I'll leave Fez to bite and get all shouty.

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                        • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                          You should be proud to have such luminaries as Reagan and Nixon representing California and their progressive attitudes towards racial equality. Thank goodness for the moderating effect of Northern California and San Francisco.
                          California ditched republicans two decade agos. time to get with the times. You want racists? Look in the mirror. And Texas had the biggest racist of them all somehow steal an election... George Bush. Someone who hated black people and LGBT people.

                          You are a piece of racist ignorant trash like most people in your area.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • Ben is a revisionist idiot, a gay basher and a criminal. Go figure!
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • Many were in the House loser
                              Feel free to name them then. You never specified the House Republicans.
                              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                              "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                              2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                              • California ditched republicans two decade agos. time to get with the times. You want racists? Look in the mirror. And Texas had the biggest racist of them all somehow steal an election... George Bush. Someone who hated black people and LGBT people.
                                I thought George Wallace, card carrying democrat was the biggest racist ever.
                                Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                                "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                                2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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