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  • Rick Santorum is not supported by evangelicals. He's attacking the candidate that is. He has almost no chance of winning anything. Do you have any idea how he would win?
    Same as when he nearly beat Romney. Win or be close in Iowa.
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    • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
      The US has more violence. Gun ownership is actually a plus for the US because of that.
      Owning a gun won't save you.

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      • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
        The US has more violence. Gun ownership is actually a plus for the US because of that.
        The USA has more violence ... Gun ownership is part of the reason for that
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        • Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post
          The USA has more violence ... Gun ownership is part of the reason for that
          Part. But owning a gun is actually something that Americans like to do because it makes them feel safer. No one here thinks that the criminals are ever going to stop having guns.
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          • The USA has more violence ... Gun ownership is part of the reason for that
            Eh, not really. California has 1.45x the population of TX, and the total homicides in CA are 1.49x that of TX.

            Yes, Virginia, TX homicide rate in 2014 was less than California.
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            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
              I teach the constitution as written, that natural born citizens are born on American soil. Constitutional 'scholars' can say whatever they believe, but it doesn't change what the text actually says.
              Where does it say anything about soil?
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              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                Same as when he nearly beat Romney. Win or be close in Iowa.
                He's running up against Cruz, not Romney. Evangelicals love Cruz.
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                • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                  I teach the constitution as written, that natural born citizens are born on American soil. Constitutional 'scholars' can say whatever they believe, but it doesn't change what the text actually says.
                  Again. I hope you teach them what scholars believe, others you are feeding their head with bull****.
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                  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                    Eh, not really. California has 1.45x the population of TX, and the total homicides in CA are 1.49x that of TX.

                    Yes, Virginia, TX homicide rate in 2014 was less than California.
                    All still shot to death by guns, no doubt...

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                    • Where does it say anything about soil?
                      No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
                      Key point here, "or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution." Why is this in here? Because those who were born outside of the United States of America prior to it's founding would be rendered ineligible. This secondary clause was added so as to grandfather the founders who were born outside of the United States.

                      It makes no sense to have this clause unless one interprets natural born citizen = born on American soil.

                      Also we can see that this requirement applies only to the office of the presidency, and not to the Senate or House of Representatives. Reason being that the highest office of the land would have more stringent criteria.
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                      • Again. I hope you teach them what scholars believe, others you are feeding their head with bull****.
                        You can find constitutional 'scholars' who believe anything. What matters is what the document actually says, not what 'scholars' tell you they believe it says.
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                        • He's running up against Cruz, not Romney. Evangelicals love Cruz.
                          *sigh*. "What is his path to victory", same as in the previous election.
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                          • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                            You can find constitutional 'scholars' who believe anything. What matters is what the document actually says, not what 'scholars' tell you they believe it says.
                            I also hope you don't teach them 'scholars will believe anything.' That's horrible.
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                            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                              *sigh*. "What is his path to victory", same as in the previous election.
                              Cruz is going to beat Trump. This kind of thing happens. There's no way to predict it. It just happens a lot. Cruz is the most likely one to get Trumps supporters.
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                              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                                It makes no sense to have this clause unless one interprets natural born citizen = born on American soil.
                                Your argument doesn't make any sense.

                                There could be no natural born citizens of the United States before the United States existed. So there had to be a clause to allow someone to be president given that the only natural born citizens of the United States would be newborns.

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