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  • 23. All authority should be questioned. STRONG AGREE. This includes government, and public school that would have you believe that what they teach is gospel.
    ... and God/Church.

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    • 39. Civil Liberties. Government has proper functions one of them is to protect the borders. Protection has been too lax and not stringent enough. DISAGREE.

      40. One party state. STRONG DISAGREE.

      41. Yeah sure. I've been an 'evildoer' in the eyes of my government. STRONG DISAGREE

      42. Death Penalty. Well the catechism says so.. STRONG DISAGREE

      43. Civil Heirarchy. I'm commanded to do quite a few things that are contrary to my true Lord. STRONG DISAGREE

      44. Abstract art. Art should represent truth and beauty. STRONG AGREE

      45. Punishment vs rehabilitation. DISAGREE. Prisons are for correction but rehabilitation takes priority.

      46. Rehabilitation is impossible. STRONG DISAGREE. God can save me so why not others?

      47. Healthy society has artists, writers, businessmen and builders everyone serves in their own capacity. DISAGREE

      48. Homemakers. STRONG AGREE. This is one I've changed on over the years. I'm very thankful for the ladies who have opened my eyes here.

      49. Development of medical resources. Unethical? Not really. There should be more research not less. DISAGREE

      50. Making peace with the establishment. AGREE. I don't see the establishment is wrong, I see that there is a different establishment that I owe my loyalty.

      51. Astrology - STRONG DISAGREE

      52. Morality - STRONG DISAGREE. Romans is very clear on this - that we all have a conscience to follow and that man will be judged based on his own conscience. We have a duty to become as informed as possible. Plus, again, I didn't grow up with it myself. Christianity spoke to the law in my heart already.

      53. Charity. Charity rules. STRONG AGREE

      54. Luck. Luck is illogical. STRONG DISAGREE.

      55. Religion. Well, given that I teach in such a school. STRONG AGREE

      56. Sex outside of marriage STRONG AGREE

      57. Adoption. Children need a mother and a father. STRONG DISAGREE

      58. Pornography. Do I believe that contraception is immoral? Yes. Do I believe it should be banned? NO. Is the question a proxy for Porn? Yes. DISAGREE.

      59. This is a direct Trudope quote. Do I agree that bedrooms should be private? Yes. Does abortion happen in a bedroom? No. STRONG DISAGREE

      60. Can you have natural feelings? Yes. Should you act on them? No. Is the question a proxy for approval? STRONG DISAGREE

      61. Openness. STRONG AGREE

      Final score, +6.5 -1.69.
      Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
      "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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      • ... and God/Church.
        I was an unbeliever, Aeson. I don't spare the Church from scrutiny. I am here because I believe that they are more right than everyone else.
        Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
        "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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        • Ben is very strongly libertarian when it comes to getting government out of healthcare, welfare, gun control, minimum wage, etc. So much so that the ways he's strongly authoritarian can't quite get it back to center.

          There needs to be another axis on those tests, based on how extremist your views are.
          I really am a classical liberal, in the sense that I believe that economic and political freedoms are interconnected. I believe that we arrive at the truth through examining it but that requires that people are given a chance to be exposed to it. You can't get truth if someone is always telling you that ideas that are wrong should not be expressed. That, plus my views on the death penalty, that I believe that war should be conducted on international laws - my disagreement is not over that principle, but over what those laws should be. Due to how the test is written, that pulls me strongly libertarian, and you're exactly right. I can be totally honest about how I feel about porn, about gay marriage, homosexuality, abortion and pot, and still score out -1.5 because of that.

          I'm glad you've taken the time to understand that, more than the others here. I've been trying to point that out for awhile.
          Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
          "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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          • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
            I was an unbeliever, Aeson. I don't spare the Church from scrutiny. I am here because I believe that they are more right than everyone else.
            So you are saying you consistently question God's will?

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            • are saying you consistently question God's will?
              This year has been particularly tough for me. I have questioned His will for me many times, and particularly over the last few weeks. I believe because I have been well taught by those with much more insight than me. I obey because that is what He commands. I slip and fall and have to go to confession.

              I'm no saint, Aeson.
              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
              "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                I really am a classical liberal, in the sense that I believe that economic and political freedoms are interconnected. I believe that we arrive at the truth through examining it but that requires that people are given a chance to be exposed to it. You can't get truth if someone is always telling you that ideas that are wrong should not be expressed. That, plus my views on the death penalty, that I believe that war should be conducted on international laws - my disagreement is not over that principle, but over what those laws should be. Due to how the test is written, that pulls me strongly libertarian, and you're exactly right. I can be totally honest about how I feel about porn, about gay marriage, homosexuality, abortion and pot, and still score out -1.5 because of that.

                I'm glad you've taken the time to understand that, more than the others here. I've been trying to point that out for awhile.
                "Classical Liberal" is about right ... most of your views are firmly 19th century.

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                • "Classical Liberal" is about right ... most of your views are firmly 19th century.
                  I am Victorian. What else would I be?
                  Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                  "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                  2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                  • There's been some good ideas in the last century and a half. You've been left behind.

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                    • There's been some good ideas in the last century and a half. You've been left behind.
                      Why would I believe in that heretical rubbish Rapture?
                      Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                      "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                      • you disagree with astrology but follow the lamb who became a fish?

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                        • The Rapture is just in the Bible.
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                          • Your Political Compass
                            Economic Left/Right: 1.0
                            Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.0
                            No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                            • you disagree with astrology but follow the lamb who became a fish?
                              Dead idols, living God.
                              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                              "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                              2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                              • Ben is a celebrity.

                                You lot talk about him all the time.

                                I wonder just many hundreds of extra poasts have been made on the OT thanks to this fixation on Ben.

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