What's up with all the anti-christian hysteria?

[loinburger]

God never said that Satan deceived Adam and Eve in the garden - that's something you made up on your own and are now falsely claiming to be God's word. You've got a bad habit of doing this.

It's very simple: you can either a. cite the chapter and verse in the Bible where it says that Satan deceived Adam and Eve (or equivalently, where it says that Satan was the serpent), b. reveal the name of the other source of divine revelation that you're using to come up with this information (note: "everybody thinks it's so!" doesn't count as divine revelation), or c. stop being a dumbass.

[Kidlicious]

You either don't understand the answer I'm giving you, or you're just pretending to not understand. There is no deception without Satan. Curious, who is Satan to you, I mean according to the Bible.

[ZEE]

My brain has expanded by several inches by reading this interesting thrade, you guise.

[loinburger]

There is no deception without Satan.

Where in the Bible does it say this? Please cite chapter and verse.

Curious, who is Satan to you, I mean according to the Bible.

Satan was charged by God in tempting mankind - this is best exemplified in the book of Job. He wasn't some sort of prince of Hell or whatever, that was invented later by Milton - instead he was completely subservient to God. Therefore it is more accurate to say "there is no deception without God," because if God is omnipotent then there can't be anything without his approval / direction. By empowering Satan with your non-existent Bible verses you're really just disempowering God.

[Kidlicious]

Revelation 12:9

[Kidlicious]

I don't have copy paste on this device, but that makes it crystal clear who the serpent is.

[Kidlicious]

Where in the Bible does it say this? Please cite chapter and verse.



Satan was charged by God in tempting mankind - this is best exemplified in the book of Job. He wasn't some sort of prince of Hell or whatever, that was invented later by Milton - instead he was completely subservient to God. Therefore it is more accurate to say "there is no deception without God," because if God is omnipotent then there can't be anything without his approval / direction. By empowering Satan with your non-existent Bible verses you're really just disempowering God.

You're contradicting yourself.

Satan rebelled against God and so was cut off from His wisdom and goodness. So yes, evil.

[loinburger]

Revelation 12:9

12:3 - And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
12:9 - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rather odd that Adam and Eve didn't think anything was amiss with a snake that had seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns giving them culinary advice

[loinburger]

You're contradicting yourself.

Satan rebelled against God and so was cut off from His wisdom and goodness. So yes, evil.

So you believe that Satan deceives mankind without God's permission/acquiescence, i.e. that God is powerless to stop Satan?

[Kidlicious]

12:3 - And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
12:9 - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rather odd that Adam and Eve didn't think anything was amiss with a snake that had seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns giving them culinary advice

It doesn't matter how strange he was. They didn't believe that they were created in God's image anyway. It's called an easy sell.

[Kidlicious]

So you believe that Satan deceives mankind without God's permission/acquiescence, i.e. that God is powerless to stop Satan?

God is going to stop Satan. Didn't I just post a verse stating that directly?

[loinburger]

They didn't believe that they were created in God's image anyway.

Where in the Bible does it say this?

God is going to stop Satan.

Which means that he chooses not to stop Satan now and has chosen not to stop Satan in the past because he gave permission to Satan to do whatever he wants or else acquiesces to Satan's authority, or alternatively which means that he is powerless to stop Satan now and was powerless to stop Satan in the past.

[Kidlicious]

I gave you an obvious answer to your question. Is there any other possibility other than they believed what they wanted to believe? That's what we all do.

[Kidlicious]

Where in the Bible does it say this?



Which means that he chooses not to stop Satan now and has chosen not to stop Satan in the past because he gave permission to Satan to do whatever he wants or else acquiesces to Satan's authority, or alternatively which means that he is powerless to stop Satan now and was powerless to stop Satan in the past.

No. He's waiting. God does everything in the correct season.

[loinburger]

Is there any other possibility other than they believed what they wanted to believe? That's what we all do.

Yeah, you pretty much exemplify this. "I only believe stuff that's in the Bible. And also stuff that I wish were in the Bible but isn't actually in the Bible."

No. He's waiting. God does everything in the correct season.

So, God wants Satan to deceive mankind.