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  • #76
    Originally posted by MrFun View Post
    A person's rights (in this instance, being right to one's own religious belief) stop at the point that exercising one's rights would violate or deprive another person their rights.

    Davis, the county clerk in one of the counties of the state of Kentucky, cannot use her personal religious belief in violation of secular government constitutional law, to deprive other people their legally protected rights.

    Otherwise, this opens up a can of worms. Can a Muslim working as a clerk at an office for driver's licenses, refuse to issue driver's licenses to women, if that Muslim is so conservative/fundamentalist, as to believe that women cannot go anywhere unchaperoned??

    Can a pacifist working as a clerk involving registration of gun ownership refuse to process such registration for gun owners if that pacifist believes gun ownership violates his own moral beliefs/values??

    Can a devout Christian fundamentalist working as a county clerk refuse to issue a marriage license to an opposite sex couple, whom she personally knows to be atheists, because atheism goes against her religious belief??
    A well reasoned answer.
    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by MrFun View Post
      I thought the judge said he would revisit Davis's sentence in one week? I did not read anywhere, that the judge said she would be in jail until she signs.
      I suspect the 'revisiting' will be as follows:

      Judge: Will you do your duty, or, as an alternative, resign?
      Clerk: No.
      Judge: Well okay then, back you go!
      Clerk: Rats.
      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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      • #78
        If she wants to follow Christ, they could always crucify her...
        There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by DaShi View Post
          So did Nikolai marry Ben or not?
          Are Nikolai, and his wife, both DLs of Ben?


          :confused now:

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Nikolai View Post
            My wife has an account here. One account. My wife likes Ben, but she's not like Ben. Truth to be told, she's much prettier.
            and lo,

            the lowest bar to have ever been set,

            sees its genesis.

            try
            harder. Nikolai.
            I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
            [Brandon Roderick? You mean Brock's Toadie?][Hanged from Yggdrasil]

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Nikolai View Post
              My wife has an account here. One account. My wife likes Ben, but she's not like Ben. Truth to be told, she's much prettier.
              How pretty is Ben ?

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              • #82
                Originally posted by self biased View Post
                and lo,

                the lowest bar to have ever been set,

                sees its genesis.

                try
                harder. Nikolai.
                I don't follow?
                Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
                I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made - Psalms 139.14a
                Also active on WePlayCiv.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Braindead View Post
                  How pretty is Ben ?
                  He's not my type.
                  Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.-Isaiah 41:10
                  I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made - Psalms 139.14a
                  Also active on WePlayCiv.

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                  • #84
                    Your wife seems to be an irrational, bigoted, one-eyed zealot. Are you sure BK's not your type?

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                    • #85
                      She seems to have a similar talent for inspiring controversy.
                      1011 1100
                      Pyrebound--a free online serial fantasy novel

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Nikolai View Post
                        I don't follow?
                        saying that your wife is prettier than Ben isn't much of a compliment to your wife.
                        Last edited by self biased; September 8, 2015, 19:59.
                        I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
                        [Brandon Roderick? You mean Brock's Toadie?][Hanged from Yggdrasil]

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                        • #87
                          Re: Kim Davis, I understand she recently posted a handwritten letter online comparing herself to MLK and claiming Rosa Parks "had it easy." I believe the woman may be actually deranged. Doesn't rule out the doing-it-for-the-book-money explanation, but it seems uncharitable to make fun of a bona fide lunatic.

                          EDIT: N/m, it's a fake put up as a troll.
                          1011 1100
                          Pyrebound--a free online serial fantasy novel

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                          • #88
                            Kim Davis is hardly the first Christian to be jailed for contempt of court, and will hardly be the last.

                            Frankly, I wish all of the other big-government types who believe that they can and should use government powers to shove their own personal beliefs down the peoples' throats were in jail alongside her.
                            The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
                            - A. Lincoln

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                            • #89
                              The real news in this post is that Nikolai married Ben!?!

                              This is the first Apolyton gay marriage, and therefore it should be celebrated!

                              Congratulations!

                              Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                              GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave View Post
                                The real news in this post is that Nikolai married Ben!?!

                                This is the first Apolyton gay marriage, and therefore it should be celebrated!

                                Congratulations!

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