Times they are a'changing

[Imran Siddiqui]

It is somewhat interesting to me that we American Christians seem to be far more ok with pre-martial sexual stuff than some European Christians . Even most right-wing Evangelicals get to 2nd base without a wedding.

[Dinner]

It has always amazed me that people who would never buy a car without test driving it would get married without first having sex.

[Kidlicious]

They could be more exciting than now, but I still take today over then.

That's awesome.

[Kidlicious]

It has always amazed me that people who would never buy a car without test driving it would get married without first having sex.

People don't get married just for sex. That's probably the best way to fail.

[I AM MOBIUS]

You've got me mixed up with Kentonio. Maybe I don't have a perfect record, but I've also never managed to get divorced.

Considering you've never been married, that would have to be an immaculate divorce, or something...

[I AM MOBIUS]

So my social life has changed a lot lately. At the age of 29, I've got my first girlfriend. This happened 3.5 weeks ago, and life is good.

Means a lot of less hanging on the internet on average, less games and less of other activities like reading magazines and papers. Life is changing, and it's for the good I think.

Special thanks goes to Ben for giving me some good advice on the topic of online dating.

Wow, engaged without going past 2nd base - wtaf!?

Well, whatever floats your boat, I guess, and good luck to you.

No way I could become that committed without first sampling the goods, so to speak...

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

May I take this opportunity to wish you a long and happy engagement. With extremely heavy emphasis on the "long".

[Jon Miller]

I think that 1 to 3 years is the perfect length of time for a relationship before marriage (unless one of them is really young or at university or something). Engagements that are too long are bad just like ones that are too short.

JM
(I basically asked my wife to marry me at a few weeks too, she said 'are you nuts' and it was one of the reasons we shortly after split up for a couple months. When we got back together we took things slower. We got married 2.8 years after we went on our first date.)

[dannubis]

I have been together for 20 years with my partner... not married, but very happy.

Who are you to say this is bad ?

[Sava]

I haven't seen any evidence that suggests there is an optimal courtship period before marriage.

That being said, my minimum wait period is one year.

[Ben Kenobi]

May I take this opportunity to wish you a long and happy engagement. With extremely heavy emphasis on the "long".

An opinion that I share myself. *sigh*

[Ben Kenobl]

Especially when we both agree

[Jon Miller]

I have been together for 20 years with my partner... not married, but very happy.

Who are you to say this is bad ?

I should have put a clarification: for people who intend to marry.

This is obviously not true for many Europeans (and Americans in the NE).

There have been statistics that when people marry after 5+ years of relationship (in the US), they have a higher failure rate.

I have observed a lot of this too.

JM

[N35t0r]

I married after five years.

[Jon Miller]

I married after five years.

Statistics.

My brother and sister both married at about 9 years. Both started to divorce after 1 year (and are divorced now).

JM