Sharia Law at Wal Mart [Trigger Warning: People Arguing With Ben]

[Ben Kenobi]

Christians have been slaughtering Jews for over a thousand years, does this mean that they worship a different god?

One, I don't agree with anti-Jewish pogroms. Nor do I agree that there's any justification for Christians to engage in such. The Christians who did were gravely mistaken, and there's nothing in the Bible to suggest anything other than Jews as God's chosen people.

Islam, however, commands it's followers to slaugher infidels.

It's also odd that you would favor alleged Muslim doctrine over official Catholic doctrine when determining whether Muslims and Catholics worship the same god. Does this make you a stealth Muslim?

What 'official Catholic Doctrine'? Did Francis give a thumbs up to ISIS, or did he condemn the attacks? I'm adopting logic and reason to come to the conclusion that allah is not God.

[Ben Kenobi]

Especially catholics

We saved our share in the holocaust. And it wasn't Catholic Germany that voted in Hitler as much as the anti-Catholics wish to claim. Had Germany treated Hitler like Catholic Bavaria did, he would never have been anything more than a footnote for the Beer Hall Putsch.

[Bereta_Eder]

Excellent. using logic to prove something supernatural immediately discredits logic.

[Ben Kenobi]

using logic to prove something supernatural immediately discredits logic

Seems very reasonable to me. If Muslims believed Christians served the same God, they wouldn't be slaughtering them. They don't, which is why they are fulfilling what their god commands them.

And I especially don't see why Catholics in particular should collaborate with those who are executing them in the here and now.

[Bereta_Eder]

No you put them in poles during the crusades too. I think you need to stop having an inferiority complex towards them (god's chosen people and all)

[loinburger]

One, I don't agree with anti-Jewish pogroms. Nor do I agree that there's any justification for Christians to engage in such. The Christians who did were gravely mistaken, and there's nothing in the Bible to suggest anything other than Jews as God's chosen people.

Islam, however, commands it's followers to slaugher infidels.

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What 'official Catholic Doctrine'? Did Francis give a thumbs up to ISIS, or did he condemn the attacks? I'm adopting logic and reason to come to the conclusion that allah is not God.

You are applying doctrine to determine that Jews worship the same god ("yeah, Christians have killed a few million Jews over the years, but they ought not to have done so because The Bible") and "evidence" to determine that Muslims worship a different god ("sure, the Pope said that Muslims worship the same god as Christians, but I personally don't like Muslims"). I suppose this is par for the course.

If a Jew told you that Christians worshiped a different god because Christians have slaughtered a ton of Jews, how would you respond?

[Bereta_Eder]

Seems very reasonable to me. If Muslims believed Christians served the same God, they wouldn't be slaughtering them. They don't, which is why they are fulfilling what their god commands them.

And I especially don't see why Catholics in particular should collaborate with those who are executing them in the here and now.

so called muslims kill other muslims too, so your theory doesn't hold much water

[Proteus_MST]

If God and allah were the same, why would Muslims be slaughtering Catholics in the name of their god? It makes no sense.

Clearly, Muslims believe that God and allah are not the same.

Catholics slaughtered Muslims "in the name of their god" as well ... does anyone remember the numerous crusades?

[Bereta_Eder]

oh yeah. loinburger is right. your pope is authenticity for everything. he says, you obey,

[Ben Kenobi]

Christians have killed a few million Jews over the years

Ooh. [[citation needed]]

Given that Muslims conquered all the Christian lands in Egypt, the Mideast and North Africa, I'd wager that the statement, "Muslims have killed millions of Christians", is true, while the argument that Christians have killed millions of Jews is not.

Unless of course you argue that the Nazis just had to be Christian.

[Ben Kenobi]

Catholics slaughtered Muslims "in the name of their god" as well ... tdoes anyone remember the numerous crusades?

Given that the Catholics had churches in Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria and Carthage, I'd argue that the Crusades were a defensive action. Is it wrong to fight back against invaders?

[Ben Kenobi]

so called muslims kill other muslims too, so your theory doesn't hold much water

For the same reason that Protestants argue that Catholics support Idolatry, fwiw. My point stands. If you're executing someone, chances are you don't believe you worship the same God.

[Ben Kenobi]

inferiority complex towards them (god's chosen people and all)

It's what the bible teaches, and God is very explicit about that, as is Paul in Romans. It's what makes the pogroms, especially in Russia very sad.

[loinburger]

Ah, so if a Jew said "Christians don't worship the same god as the Jews because Christians have killed millions of Jews," you'd respond "Oh come on, Christians have slaughtered at most a few hundred thousand Jews "

It still amazes me that your hatred of Muslims overrides your subservience to the Pope

[Bereta_Eder]

wait, if that's true then how come catholic nations have bloodbathed eachother for decades?
isn't the same god?