What actually happened to Freddy gray?

[Guynemer]

I have evidence that you believe that his death was justified because he was a thug, ergo you believe that he deserved the death penalty.

But I thought the Catholic Church was against the death penalty.

[loinburger]

Only for white criminals, apparently, which makes sense since all black criminals are Muslim anyway

[Donegeal]

User, dealer, thug, whatever. What does any of that have to do with the question at hand? The dude was killed while presenting no credible threat to the police or anyone else.

The moron and Loin were discussing the man's arrest record when gribbler pasted the thug label on Sava (albiet with a smilie). I and the inhuman assbag came to his defense. Sweet jesus what a strange world we live in.

[loinburger]

His death is justified because it causes more violence. The ends justify the means. Clearly the cops are conspiring to overthrow the government.

If Ben thinks that Gray deserved to die because people rioted after his death, then does he also believe that Jodie Foster deserves prison time (obviously she doesn't deserve the death penalty - she's too white for that) because of John Hinkley Jr.'s assassination attempt on Reagan?

[Ben Kenobi]

he deserved the death penalty.

What evidence is there that the officers deliberately killed him?

[giblets]

The moron and Loin were discussing the man's arrest record when gribbler pasted the thug label on Sava (albiet with a smilie). I and the inhuman assbag came to his defense. Sweet jesus what a strange world we live in.

I think he has sold pot before but I might be remembering things incorrectly.

edit: I don't think Sava is actually a "thug" because I don't consider selling illegal drugs to be "thug" behavior

[loinburger]

What evidence is there that the officers deliberately killed him?

Please reply to my entire post, I'm not going to bother copy-pasting it. This is about your believing that he deserved to die, not about whether the officers believed that he deserved to die.

[Ben Kenobi]

Please reply to my entire post, I'm not going to bother copy-pasting it. This is about your believing that he deserved to die, not about whether the officers believed that he deserved to die.

Your accusation only makes sense if you're assuming that I believe he was executed by the officers. It makes no sense whatsoever if I believe that it was an unfortunate accident.

I could see the cops being charged with negligence, but I see nothing to indicate any desire on their part to kill Freddy Grey. There's just no motive there.

[Guynemer]

The moron and Loin were discussing the man's arrest record when gribbler pasted the thug label on Sava (albiet with a smilie). I and the inhuman assbag came to his defense. Sweet jesus what a strange world we live in.

Truer words, brother. Truer words.

[Ben Kenobi]

does he also believe that Jodie Foster deserves prison time (obviously she doesn't deserve the death penalty - she's too white for that) because of John Hinkley Jr.'s assassination attempt on Reagan

I should quote this because nobody would ever believe this part of the post.

[loinburger]

Your accusation only makes sense if you're assuming that I believe he was executed by the officers. It makes no sense whatsoever if I believe that it was an unfortunate accident.

I could see the cops being charged with negligence, but I see nothing to indicate any desire on their part to kill Freddy Grey. There's just no motive there.

He was a thug. Sorry. Here's his rap sheet. 18 arrests. Don't care if you're black or white, but 18 arrests, 6 in the last half a year, averaging one a month? Dude, you're a thug. Would you give the benefit of the doubt to the cops if you were on that jury? I sure would. Especially after the recent 'performance'.

Why would you think that the guy being a thug meant that the cops should get the benefit of the doubt regarding his death? Either a. you believe that the death was unintentional (accidental or negligent), in which case Gray being a thug or not being a thug should not be relevant; or b. you believe that the death was intentional, in which case you believe that the cops should be exonerated for killing somebody who deserved to be killed.

You can't call this an "unfortunate accident" while at the same time crowing over the death of a "thug."

[loinburger]

I should quote this because nobody would ever believe this part of the post.

Do you not know about the Jodie Foster / John Hinkley Jr thing, or is there something else wrong with your brain that would lead you to think that "nobody would ever believe this part of the post"?

[MRT144]

It may simply have been an accident. An accident facilitated by poor behavior by the police, but still an accident.

So everyone should just get over it already, right?

[Ben Kenobi]

Why would you think that the guy being a thug meant that the cops should get the benefit of the doubt regarding his death?

I see zero motivation for the cops to kill Freddy Grey. I see a ton of motive on the other side to crucify them. Cui Bono? Not the cops. The thugs on the other hand...

Either a. you believe that the death was unintentional (accidental or negligent), in which case Gray being a thug or not being a thug should not be relevant

; or b. you believe that the death was intentional, in which case you believe that the cops should be exonerated for killing somebody who deserved to be killed.

If it's not relevant then why the accusation of false arrest? His record is relevant because at least in the America I know (not Loinburger's, perhaps), you can't be arrested without there being due cause. In a he said / she said situation, I'm likely to side with the cops over the thugs who are looting and burning Baltimore.

crowing over the death of a "thug."

Who's crowing? I'm sticking up for the cops who's lives have been threatened in Baltimore. Everybody loses in the end here if the cops get trashed. I know who's on my side of the line and it's not thugs like Freddy and his friends.

[Ben Kenobi]

Do you not know about the Jodie Foster / John Hinkley Jr thing, or is there something else wrong with your brain that would lead you to think that "nobody would ever believe this part of the post"?

I am aware. Nobody would *ever* believe anybody on Poly said this so I quoted it.