Here we go again: almost all diet advice is wrong (again)

[Aeson]

I never disagreed with that.

Perhaps you didn't mean to, but your claims about calories in vs calories out being 100% of the issue say otherwise.

For instance I have an extremely fast metabolism. This is mostly because I'm 22 years old.

So calories into a younger person are not tthe same in regards to weight as into an older person? Is that what you're trying to say?

It STILL does not change calories in vs calories out.

Of course it doesn't change that ... that's always going to be stupid.

You've just tweaked the coefficients a bit.

Your claim was 100% of the equation was calories in vs calories out ... changing the formula is refuting your argument.

[Sava]

So your metabolism can increase by a whopping 4% when you completely change your diet. In other words a calorie is pretty much just a calorie.

You are being extremely dishonest... purposefully, IMO.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19640952

Forty-two percent of the increase in energy expenditure after the H diet was explained by the increase in gluconeogenesis. The cost of gluconeogenesis was 33% of the energy content of the produced glucose.

Being an idiot doesn't help your case. That 4% was based on the total caloric intake of the diet (I'm guessing... I didn't examine the part you cherry-picked from, you could be very well making it up). Sadly for you, the protein rich diet was only 55% protein.

Reading helps

nitwit

[Aeson]

"Energy in versus energy out. ... that is the only consideration."
"Calories in vs. calories out. ... That's it. That's 100% of losing weight."

[Lorizael]

How is that relevant at all? It still means that by eating less you can lose weight. So different people might have different needs. But they can still lose weight. Jesus christ.

You've DanSed out the algebra bit, but let's go with this. Edit: Did you double DanS me, or am I losing it?

Person A requires X hours of exercise to lose Y pounds.
Person B requires 2X hours of exercise to lose Y pounds.
Exercising for X hours requires Z willpower.
Person A and Person B each have 1.5Z willpower.
Person A is capable of losing Y pounds.
Person B is not.
Person A is a hero who understands thermodynamics!
Person B is a loser who should be fat-shamed!

[Nikolai]

no

weight loss is a behavioral issue

telling someone "take in less calories than you burn" is simple and unhelpful

it doesn't matter if it is technically correct

the whole purpose of discussing weight loss is to come up with effective strategies

that's not a strategy... that's something a child would respond with or some jackass trying to be too literal

Meds need to be taken into account too. I lost 35 kg in one year by changing my diabetes meds.

[Sava]

Also, pedotard, different kinds of calories are stored by the body in different ways. Muscle growth/repair requires higher amounts of protein. Highly refined sugars and flours tend to be stored as fat.

Going back to your argument about losing fat versus losing weight, if you are interested in losing fat and your body replacing that tissue with muscle (re-composition without a change in overall mass), you need to eat a protein rich diet.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19381015

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?t...20to%20adipose.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=effects%20of%20dietary%20protein%20content%20on%20weight%20gain,%20energy%20expenditure,%20and%20body%20composition%20during%20overeating%20a%20randomized%20controlled%20trial&cmd=correctspelling

This is very basic stuff.

Do you want more? I don't mind dishing out punishment.

So yes. Carbs make you fat.

[DaShi]

Weather is 100% thermodynamics. Weather causes obesity!

[Sava]

Meds need to be taken into account too. I lost 35 kg in one year by changing my diabetes meds.

Yes.

Lots of things can mess with hormones. Metabolism can be affected by such things in a dramatic way. Willpower doesn't enter into the equation in this regard at all. You can't will your body into releasing different kinds of hormones.

[Aeson]

Where does the willpower to do the things to develop willpower come from? That's what I want to know ...

[DaShi]

Where does the willpower to do the things to develop willpower come from? That's what I want to know ...

Calories, obviously.

[Sava]

Where does the willpower to do the things to develop willpower come from? That's what I want to know ...

obviously, from your "soul" which is a metaphysical entity outside of your body

it is not affected by things like brain chemistry, hormones, activity level, genetic predisposition

[Aeson]

I like to think I'm constantly breaking the laws of physics ... just by wanting to. But the damn spoon never bends

[Nikolai]

There is no spoon, Aeson. Time to learn that.

[Pedotard]

You are being extremely dishonest... purposefully, IMO.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19640952

Being an idiot doesn't help your case. That 4% was based on the total caloric intake of the diet (I'm guessing... I didn't examine the part you cherry-picked from, you could be very well making it up). Sadly for you, the protein rich diet was only 55% protein.

Reading helps

nitwit

I didn't examine the part you cherry-picked from

Reading helps

You're a troll.

[Aeson]

If there is no spoon then how do I eat my Captn Crunch?