Here we go again: almost all diet advice is wrong (again)

[Pedotard]

Don't tell me this. Direct your statement to the dumbfucks claiming "weight loss" is all about "energy in, energy used".

It is, unless you're retarded and think they care about water weight.

[Sava]

It is, unless you're retarded and think they care about water weight.

If they are talking about fat loss, they should probably say so. I'm not to blame for their poor communication skills. I can only address the statements presented to me.

Sorry for DanSing. But if we are talking about "fat loss" as "lowering body fat percentage", then "energy in/energy used" is more wrong. You can lower body fat percentage by gaining more muscle. That requires consuming more calories than you expend.

[Pedotard]

If they are talking about fat loss, they should probably say so. I'm not to blame for their poor communication skills. I can only address the statements presented to me.

Is English your native language? When people want to "lose weight" they pretty much always mean losing body fat.

[Sava]

Is English your native language? When people want to "lose weight" they pretty much always mean losing body fat.

I don't seem to be the one who has problems grasping the English language. It is important to be precise in language. Losing fat and losing weight are not the same things.

[Pedotard]

Sorry for DanSing. But if we are talking about "fat loss" as "lowering body fat percentage", then "energy in/energy used" is more wrong. You can lower body fat percentage by gaining more muscle. That requires consuming more calories than you expend.

Do you have any proof that it's physically impossible to gain muscle on a day when you eat fewer calories than you use?

I don't seem to be the one who has problems grasping the English language. It is important to be precise in language. Losing fat and losing weight are not the same things.

You're trolling.

[Sava]

Do you have any proof that it's physically impossible to gain muscle on a day when you eat fewer calories than you use?

The source I provided has answers to all these questions. You should try reading. Letter form words. Words form sentences. Punctuation. Left to right, top to bottom. Try it! It's fun.

[Pedotard]

The source I provided has answers to all these questions. You should try reading. Letter form words. Words form sentences. Punctuation. Left to right, top to bottom. Try it! It's fun.

Okay.

A 2011 paper suggests a weekly rate of body-weight loss of 0.7% can permit muscle gain in both men and women while losing fat mass. Women were also able to increase muscle while losing fat at a weekly rate of body-weight loss of 1.0-1.4%. Men, however, lost muscle mass at this increased rate.

Gee, maybe you can lose weight and gain muscle at the same time.

[Sava]

Okay.


Gee, maybe you can lose weight and gain muscle at the same time.

I didn't state the opposite. Again, do you know how to read?

Forgive me if I wasn't clear. The "need" to eat more in order to gain muscle is to optimize muscle growth. You failed to address my main point regarding the ability to lower overall body fat percentage while eating more calories than one expends.

You're trolling.

Right back at you. Only, my "trolls" are based on scientific facts.

[Sava]

also

A 2011 paper SUGGESTS

Emphasis added by me.

[Sava]

This is a sensitive subject for you isn't it? I remember I kicked your ass once before in a similar topic regarding the myth that all calories are created equal.

specifically with regards to high fructose corn syrup and trans fats and their detrimental effects on the body

[Pedotard]

I didn't state the opposite. Again, do you know how to read?

Forgive me if I wasn't clear. The "need" to eat more in order to gain muscle is to optimize muscle growth. You failed to address my main point regarding the ability to lower overall body fat percentage while eating more calories than one expends.



Right back at you. Only, my "trolls" are based on scientific facts.

You're offering opinions, not scientific facts. You haven't provided any scientific evidence that equilibrium muscle mass is higher if someone goes through periods of rapid weight gain that are presumably followed by periods of weight loss. And it's not relevant to fat people who just want to stop being fat.

[Pedotard]

This is a sensitive subject for you isn't it? I remember I kicked your ass once before in a similar topic regarding the myth that all calories are created equal.

specifically with regards to high fructose corn syrup and trans fats and their detrimental effects on the body

Calories are created equal in terms of energy content... by definition. Trans fats are not bad for you because of their calorie content. And high fructose corn syrup is just as bad for you as sucrose, obviously.

[Sava]

Calories are created equal in terms of energy content... by definition. Trans fats are not bad for you because of their calorie content. And high fructose corn syrup is just as bad for you as sucrose, obviously.

Again, overly simplistic to the point of being wrong. The body does not treat all calories equally. You are conveniently ignoring the "energy used" portion of metabolic function.

I'm not only kicking your ass at this, I've spread your butt cheeks open, have put my foot inside you so far that I kicked your breakfast out of your mouth.

[Sava]

You're offering opinions, not scientific facts. You haven't provided any scientific evidence that equilibrium muscle mass is higher if someone goes through periods of rapid weight gain that are presumably followed by periods of weight loss. And it's not relevant to fat people who just want to stop being fat.

Wrong. I am parroting statements and conclusions from a resource that is fully sourced. If you have issues with the science, I suggest you address them on the fitness subreddit.

Though, if you do so, I would recommend you pucker your butthole.

[Pedotard]

Again, overly simplistic to the point of being wrong. The body does not treat all calories equally. You are conveniently ignoring the "energy used" portion of metabolic function.

I'm not only kicking your ass at this, I've spread your butt cheeks open, have put my foot inside you so far that I kicked your breakfast out of your mouth.

Do you have any scientific studies showing that BMR depends on what type of foods people are getting calories from?

Wrong. I am parroting statements and conclusions from a resource that is fully sourced. If you have issues with the science, I suggest you address them on the fitness subreddit.

You're parroting the hivemind on reddit