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  • Originally posted by NICE MOBIUS View Post
    Anyone with half a brain and even a simple grasp of the situation would have instantly realised there was never any danger of any further escalation than sabre-rattling between Turkey and Russia, without having to get a hard on over relative tank numbers etc. It is an entirely unnecessary argument to be having.

    Anyone who honestly thought that there would be a direct military conflict between Turkey and Russia is a certifiable idiot.

    Anyone who doesn't want to avoid conflict at all costs, is a dangerous idiot.
    There is a lot to agree with in this post, but I still believe that it is both wise and relevant to look at these things. Wars usually come about because someone miscalculated somewhere. It is never a bad thing to analyze things in depth...
    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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    • The Cold War is over.
      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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      • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
        The Cold War is over.
        Glad you are keeping up ...even if you are two and a half decades behind.
        "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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        • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
          You didn't get the memo
          The whole point of NATO wouldn't be worth the paper it's written on, if it failed to uphold its core founding principle.

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          • Who says any different?

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            • Originally posted by PLATO View Post
              There is a lot to agree with in this post, but I still believe that it is both wise and relevant to look at these things. Wars usually come about because someone miscalculated somewhere. It is never a bad thing to analyze things in depth...
              I did. Turkey is a member of NATO. Russia would be fighting beyond its borders. End of story.

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              • Originally posted by NICE MOBIUS View Post
                I did. Turkey is a member of NATO. Russia would be fighting beyond its borders. End of story.
                I wouldn't exactly call that in depth, but nevertheless it is accurate!
                "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                • Originally posted by PLATO View Post
                  Glad you are keeping up ...even if you are two and a half decades behind.
                  Seems like you're the one behind the times. What interest should we have defending a country like Turkey against Russia? No one is going to support that in this country. Not the left or the right. It's amazing how some one so full of hot air, like yourself, can think you are so much smarter than other people.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                  - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                  • Actually now turkey isn't fighting outside of its borders, which is a good thing

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                    • Originally posted by PLATO View Post
                      I wouldn't exactly call that in depth, but nevertheless it is accurate!
                      That is in depth - it didn't need to be any more in depth than that.

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                      • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                        Seems like you're the one behind the times. What interest should we have defending a country like Turkey against Russia? No one is going to support that in this country. Not the left or the right. It's amazing how some one so full of hot air, like yourself, can think you are so much smarter than other people.
                        I see you have no understanding of the geopolitical situation in the world.
                        "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                        • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                          Seems like you're the one behind the times. What interest should we have defending a country like Turkey against Russia? No one is going to support that in this country. Not the left or the right. It's amazing how some one so full of hot air, like yourself, can think you are so much smarter than other people.
                          Are you really that much of a two-faced cowardly bastard that you would happily renege on the core founding principles of NATO by abandoning one of its members at the first sign of trouble!? This isn't about the Cold War, it's about upholding treaties.

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                          • Treaties schmtreaties

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                            • Yeah, trust a Greek to say that!

                              Never thought I'd be lumping you in the same boat as Kid...

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                              • I'm going to eat fish and mountain vegetables now.
                                I'm in a fragile state so I won't engage in pointless controversy
                                (if it was a stake I might)

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