what happened to the großrossiya thread

[Dinner]

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-08-05/the-world-hates-russia-russia-hates-it-back-

It is a few months old but ~73% of Ukrainians have an unfavorable view of Russia. In fact, just about everyone in the world dislikes Russia.

The funny part is Putin spends half a billion dollars of Russian tax payer money each year to pump out foreign language propaganda but no one in the world seems to believe any of it as Putin's actions keep causing poll numbers to drop. In fact the only ones who seem ignorant enough to believe Putin's propaganda nonsense are Russians themselves though they are cut off by a completely state controlled media. So they at least have a good excuse for being so misinformed about wverything.

[Dinner]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34622665

Ukraine and Russia have banned all flights between their two countries. Most of the passengers are Ukrainian but most of the airlines are Russian so this is expected to financially harm Russian airlines. Ukraine says the move is necissary to both punish Russia for its invasion of the Ukraine and because the USSR start off its invasions of Afghanistan and Hungary using military planes flying in pretending to be civilian planes.

[Dinner]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/russia-turkey-saudi-fail-agree-syria-151023144924381.html

Poor Putin.

He wanted to come in, prop up the evil butcher of Damascus, sign a peace deal, and get out. Sadly, no one else will agree to his peace terms. Oh, well, I guess he will have to stick around for the proxy war after all.

Getting out is always so much harder than getting in. If he leaves the dictator Assad goes right back to losing but if he stays it becomes just like Afghanistan for the Soviets. A slow steady bleed of m lives, money, and equipment. I wonder if, in his arrogance, he has even figured out what a bad bear trap he has stuck his foot into?

[onodera]

http://www.bloombergview.com/article...hates-it-back-

It is a few months old but ~73% of Ukrainians have an unfavorable view of Russia. In fact, just about everyone in the world dislikes Russia.

The funny part is Putin spends half a billion dollars of Russian tax payer money each year to pump out foreign language propaganda but no one in the world seems to believe any of it as Putin's actions keep causing poll numbers to drop. In fact the only ones who seem ignorant enough to believe Putin's propaganda nonsense are Russians themselves though they are cut off by a completely state controlled media. So they at least have a good excuse for being so misinformed about wverything.

Unfavourable view is not exactly hatred. I have an unfavourable view of both you and Serb, but you are not hated.

[Bereta_Eder]

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[Geronimo]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/1...144924381.html

Poor Putin.

He wanted to come in, prop up the evil butcher of Damascus, sign a peace deal, and get out. Sadly, no one else will agree to his peace terms. Oh, well, I guess he will have to stick around for the proxy war after all.

Getting out is always so much harder than getting in. If he leaves the dictator Assad goes right back to losing but if he stays it becomes just like Afghanistan for the Soviets. A slow steady bleed of m lives, money, and equipment. I wonder if, in his arrogance, he has even figured out what a bad bear trap he has stuck his foot into?

I think Putin has the means at his disposal to force a rapid and decisive Assad victory.

Remember Taliban Afghanistan? How long after NATO intervention was it before the previously nearly defeated Northern Alliance was triumphantly marching into Kabul? All they had really gained from NATO was air support and a few advisers.

In 6 months I think everybody will be discussing how nobody could have foreseen how quickly Assad would rebound.

[Serb]

Russian Air Force - 934 combat flight within three weeks.
USAF - nearly two years an what the ****? "7000" combat flights with a zero efficiency?

You are pathetic.

[Serb]

At 3:35 Jesus looks at you:

[giblets]

Four Syrian hospitals bombed since Russian airstrikes began, doctors say

At least four hospitals have been bombed by fighter jets in north-western Syria since Russia’s intervention in the war began in late September, doctors and international observers claim.

The latest attack, on Tuesday, killed at least 12 people at Sarmin hospital in Idlib province. At least three of the victims were believed to be medical staff. Survivors and witnesses said the hospital was hit by two airstrikes at about 1pm.

Dr Mohamed Tennari, director of Sarmin hospital, said the facility appeared to have been directly targeted and could no longer serve patients on one of the fiercest frontlines in the war.

He said the hospital had been the target of at least 10 other airstrikes earlier in the conflict. Throughout the war, international medical organisations have repeatedly claimed that medical facilities in opposition areas have been systematically targeted.

Physicians for Human Rights said it had documented 313 attacks on medical facilities and the deaths of 679 medical personnel in Syria since protests against the regime of Bashar al-Assad began in March 2011 until the end of August 2015. “Syrian government forces have been responsible for more than 90% of these attacks,” the organisation said. “Each of which constitutes a war crime.”

The latest attack comes less than two weeks after a US attack on a hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan, which killed at least 22 people – 12 of them medical professionals and the rest patients. That attack was widely condemned and has forced an apology from senior US officials, as well as several international investigations.

Khaled Almilaji, the country director of Medical Relief in Syria, said: “The whole world has to be just as angry as they were with what happened in Afghanistan. Their anger must not just be directed at Bashar, who has been inhuman with us, but also at the Russians, who are just as bad, but more accurate in their targeting.”

Since early October, Russia has closed the airspace over north-western Syria as its air force has embarked on an extensive campaign to target the armed opposition to the Syrian leader. Airstrikes have been especially intense around Hama and Idlib, where some US- and Gulf-backed groups had been making gains against Syrian forces in recent months.

Russia’s claims that its attacks have targeted Isis have been at odds with evidence on the ground in areas that have have been heavily bombed but have no Isis presence.

Video shot during the attack shows massive explosions, then dust clouds and screams. “Until now, 12 people have been killed,” said Dr Tennari, adding that another 20 had been injured. Among the dead were two hospital staff, who he named as physiotherapist Hassan Taj al Deen and a security guard Khaldoun Abu Din, both in their 20s.

In mid-March Sarmin hospital was the lead treatment centre in the aftermath of a massive chlorine attack. At the time Syrian regime helicopters dropped barrel bombs filled with chlorine, which left six dead and 50 injured and prompted further claims that Damascus had continued to use banned chemicals as instruments of war. Last month the hospital treated between 5,000-7,000 patients and undertook 100 surgeries, Tennari said.

“I think it was Russian,” he said. “When we were targeted by the Syrian regime airstrikes, it was different from this time.”

The head of the Union of Syrian Medical Relief Organisations, Zedoun al-Zoubi, said Sarmin was one of three medical facilities targeted in the past week. The other two allegedly hit al-Harb and al-Eis clinics in Aleppo province. This month, a field clinic in Kfar Zeita in Idlib and another in Latamneh were also reportedly hit.

Physicians for Human Rights said Hraytan hospital in northern Aleppo had also been hit by Russian jets on 13 October. “Missiles landed directly outside the hospital’s entrance and on nearby buildings, damaging the hospital and injuring three civilians,” it said. “Syrian government forces previously attacked this hospital on September 1.”

“In the last three four weeks the airstrikes have become very accurate, very precise and very intense,” he said. “(In the past) four weeks we know the situation has become really horrible and the number of displaced people are far more than before and we are talking about people who are used to war.”

The director of programmes at Physicians for Human Rights, Widney Brown, said Russia was following in the footsteps of the Assad regime. “These attacks are inexcusable. Claiming that the fight is against terrorists does not give any government the right to tear up the laws of war, which specifically protect health workers and facilities. With these actions, Russia is damaging hospitals, putting patients and medical staff at risk, and depriving civilians of life-saving access to healthcare.”

Russian "efficiency"

[Serb]

But if Assad gets continued support from the Russians, I don't see him allowing the country to move to a Federation. He only allows that if there is credible opposition. With the Russians help, he can eliminate it. Those six support troops the Americans trained are not enough to form a credible opposition.

Could you imagine for a second that the guy just loves his country?
It is his country. He is a Syrian. And btw, he has a western education. His farther was WAY, once again - WAY f*cking more kind of dictator, but you (WEST) were silent. Because? your media didn't tell you how terrible the Assad's father is.

You are ****ing parrots.
Never mind, as for Federation. He has no choice. The Kurdish state - is a reality. And it would be better for everyone , if they remain an autonomy in Syria. But, it's too optimistic. The Middle East is disaster. Perhaps Kurds deserve their own state, but that leads to a deep sh!t.

[Proteus_MST]

Could you imagine for a second that the guy just loves his country?
It is his country. He is a Syrian. ...

Totally in contrast to the Syrian medics who were bombed out of their hospitals by the russian airforce

[PLATO]

The Kurdish state - is a reality. And it would be better for everyone , if they remain an autonomy in Syria. But, it's too optimistic. The Middle East is disaster. Perhaps Kurds deserve their own state, but that leads to a deep sh!t.

It is interesting that we have to go to Kurdistan to find some points of agreement....

[Serb]

You've said this many times. What kind of world do you think they would lead us to unchecked? It's worse than a nuclear post apocalyptic nightmare clearly, but I have trouble imagining just which scenario you might be imagining frankly once I realize that any such scenario must compare unfavorably to nuclear holocaust. For you personally what do you imagine might change for the worst in such a world..one where they have been allowed to drag us into.

Some of the 95% may be embarrassed to not know these things. help them out!

The complete dehumanization is that scenario. And it is already going. A World of masters and slaves, in a way we have never seen before. A World based on lies.

[Serb]

Totally in contrast to the Syrian medics who were bombed out of their hospitals by the russian airforce

I demand videos! Prove lies of your media with the actual evidence!

[Serb]

Four Syrian hospitals bombed since Russian airstrikes began, doctors say

Russian "efficiency"

Western lies.

Go ahead - show those bombed hospitals. We live in a digital age, when even a Kurdish peasant can shot a flying Russian missile on his cell phone.

Where are you proofs, motherf*ckers?
You live in a world of lies. Pathetic idiots.