what happened to the großrossiya thread

[Ellestar]

Hey Russian monkey boy...

If Russians are monkeys, then that makes you a Nazi. I'll rather be a monkey than a Nazi, thank you very much.

it seems that the airliner (ex) russian soldiers shot down using a russian made SAM from russian held territory in Eastern Ukraine is coming back to bite you in the arse...

The official report is released by the dutch governement.

Nice. I'll read it. I'm really interested what exactly they investigated for more than a year.

[Aeson]

Even USSR didn't have that many prisoners as USA has now.

The USSR was essentially one big prison to start with.

[Ellestar]

Actually, i take it back, Boris Nemtsov was so unpopular that he wasn't useful even as a martyr, let alone an opposition leader. It's really surprising that a well-known political figure can discredit himself so much that he become completely useless in any role.

Whoever ordered to kill him, did it for no gain at all.

[NICE MOBIUS]

This thread is mostly hypocrites hurling insults at each other.

[Bereta_Eder]

Doesn't matter because you get a feel of things

[Ellestar]

Isn't it funny how Putin declared himself the champion of family values, attacking gay people saying they had no place in Russian life, but then went and had multiple affairs and divorced his wife? Now, that is the kind of leadership I expect out of a fascist-nationalist dictator with absolute power and no moral compass.

By the way, in this thread people tell again and again that Putin is bad for Russia. But noone says how exactly they made a conclusion that Putin is bad for Russia.

I mean, let's see, Gorbachev destroyed USSR. Yeltsin almost destroyed Russia. Both were praised by the West, more or less, right? Putin restores Russia back (economy, industry, military, diplomatic power), not exactly to what it was of course, but to some extent, and he's an incarnate of Satan on Earth (for the West). How possibly it can have any sense for Russians? I understand why it is so for Westerners - for you, weak Russia or no Russia at all is the best, so you praise Gorbachev and Yeltsin and demonize Putin. But it's your own internal propaganda, it makes absolutely no sense to tell it to Russians, to use internal propaganda as a Russian propaganda. Why do you try to tell it to Russians anyway?

[Proteus_MST]

It is nothing bad if Putin increases the economic powers of russia maybe beyond the values it had before glasnost/perestroika.

It isn´t bad as long as russia doesn´t enlarge its own territory at the cost of its neighbors.

Russia was seen as trading partner in europe ... france was even willing to sell you helicoptger carriers ... i.e. military technology ... unthinkable during the cold war.
Putin destroyed this all, when he grabbed Crimea and had his agents manufacture and support the uprising in donbass

I hear btw., that human rights have decreased in crimea since russia took power ... especially for the crimea tartars and broadcasters suspected of not being pro Putin

[Serb]

By the way, in this thread people tell again and again that Putin is bad for Russia. But noone says how exactly they made a conclusion that Putin is bad for Russia.

I mean, let's see, Gorbachev destroyed USSR. Yeltsin almost destroyed Russia. Both were praised by the West, more or less, right? Putin restores Russia back (economy, industry, military, diplomatic power), not exactly to what it was of course, but to some extent, and he's an incarnate of Satan on Earth (for the West). How possibly it can have any sense for Russians? I understand why it is so for Westerners - for you, weak Russia or no Russia at all is the best, so you praise Gorbachev and Yeltsin and demonize Putin. But it's your own internal propaganda, it makes absolutely no sense to tell it to Russians, to use internal propaganda as a Russian propaganda. Why do you try to tell it to Russians anyway?

Perhaps, that's because they are just a bunch of brainwashed idiots?

[Serb]

It is nothing bad if Putin increases the economic powers of russia maybe beyond the values it had before glasnost/perestroika.

It isn´t bad as long as russia doesn´t enlarge its own territory at the cost of its neighbors.

Russia was seen as trading partner in europe ... france was even willing to sell you helicoptger carriers ... i.e. military technology ... unthinkable during the cold war.
Putin destroyed this all, when he grabbed Crimea and had his agents manufacture and support the uprising in donbass

I hear btw., that human rights have decreased in crimea since russia took power ... especially for the crimea tartars and broadcasters suspected of not being pro Putin

What was first: foreign intervention to Ukraine in form of illegal coup, which resulted in Crimea breaking apart from Ukraine and the civil war of new Kiev's western puppets vs. the Eastern Ukraine or the other way around?



If there was no Maidan, today Crimea was still part of Ukraine and no civil war at Donbass. Period.

How it's a Putin's fault that you have destabilized Ukraine in the first place?

[Serb]

Дебилы, блять (с).

[onodera]

Like, for example, Svetlana Alexievich, who got a 2015 Nobel Prize in Literature? And 2009 Nobel Peace Prize to Barack Obama. I think you forgot to give Nobel Prize in Literature to Joseph Goebbels, and a Nobel Peace Prize to Adolf Hitler. That will be in line with your previous awards.

Hey, **** off, Alexievich is one of the worthy NPL recipients in recent history.

[Serb]

Who?

[Serb]

Let me guess, she is Solzhenitsin mark II ?

[Serb]

"Her books are described as a literary chronicle of the emotional history of the Soviet and post-Soviet individual, as told by means of a carefully constructed collage of interviews.^[12] According to Russian writer and critic Dmitry Bykov",

Dmitry Bykov

Дальше не читал! Стопудов - Солженицин в юбке. Что, собственно, предсказуемо.

[Serb]

The last texan I remember had a rather ambivalent attitude towards the little thing called "truth".
His name was "George Bush jr." and he was POTUS at this time

The difference is that Texan was an idiot, who had never read any book harder than an ABC (which is more than enough to get elected in the US) and who spoke form his office, living in his fantasy world, while this Texan is an educated man who sees everything with his own eyes.