Bill Maher: Islam is inherently worse than other religions.

[kentonio]

Or maybe as they're basically meaningless umbrella terms, it doesn't matter a ****. How about we just care about what individual people believe and think instead of trying to brand groups of others with this crap.

[Sava]

You aren't fooling anyone Felch (other than yourself, maybe).

[Pax]

1. I agree with what Ben Affleck was saying and so does Richard Nixon. Most people are the silent majority regardless of the situation/culture/race/religion.
2. Why is it that some of condemn Islam so much. Organized Christianity is better? Crusades. Slavery. Genocide. government forced drug dealing. IF organized Christianity is better then only slightly.

[DinoDoc]

2. Why is it that some of condemn Islam so much.

Recent history if I had to guess.

[Sava]

Why is it that some of condemn Islam so much

Intellectual laziness, bigotry, pure stupidity... it's usually some combination of those three.

[Felch]

You aren't fooling anyone Felch (other than yourself, maybe).

I'm not trying to fool anyone.

1. I agree with what Ben Affleck was saying and so does Richard Nixon. Most people are the silent majority regardless of the situation/culture/race/religion.

Again, Maher's argument is based on scientific polling data. There are majorities in some countries that support punishing apostasy. More than three quarters of Egyptians, Jordanians, and Pakistanis support the death penalty for leaving Islam.

2. Why is it that some of condemn Islam so much. Organized Christianity is better? Crusades. Slavery. Genocide. government forced drug dealing. IF organized Christianity is better then only slightly.

How many nations have rejected the UDHR because it conflicts with Christianity?

Or maybe as they're basically meaningless umbrella terms, it doesn't matter a ****. How about we just care about what individual people believe and think instead of trying to brand groups of others with this crap.

If people identify themselves as something, then the term must have meaning to those people. If people identify themselves as beings members of a group, then it's reasonable to accept their self-definition. Who are you to reject somebody else's cultural or religious identity?

[Felch]

You guys have pathetic and lazy arguments. I realize that it's very hard to defend Islam, since it's clearly a misogynistic and bigoted faith, but give me something harder to work with here. Sava has been relying on lazy ad hominems. Ricketyretard keeps going back to "I know a few Muslims, and they are a representative sample of all 1.6 billion other Muslims." Kentonio is trying to claim that we shouldn't let people identify themselves as members of a group. Dr. Strangelove seems to prefer talking about Apartheid for some reason. And Pax is apparently too busy sucking Ray Rice's **** to read the damn thread.

Challenge me, you bums.

[Sava]

Again, Maher's argument is based on scientific polling data.

Maher begins with his conclusion (ISLAM=BAD, derp) and looks for confirmation bias.

Just like you seem to do.

[Sava]

Challenge me, you bums.

Challenge what? Your idiotic anti-islamic opinions?

I don't give a **** if you want to be a bigot. It's just a bit irritating that you are a coward and not embracing your beliefs... because they make you out to be a serious *******.

[kentonio]

If people identify themselves as something, then the term must have meaning to those people. If people identify themselves as beings members of a group, then it's reasonable to accept their self-definition. Who are you to reject somebody else's cultural or religious identity?

When millions of people all claim to belong to a group yet all disagree about what that group membership actually means, what it stands for or what it teaches, then yes trying to make claims about what that group means is pretty pointless.

Then again it's much easier to point at those nasty muslims isn't it. You go right ahead, I feel like you and Ben could end up good friends at the end of all this.

[Bereta_Eder]

There's really not much to challenge.
There are books. Some are called holy scriptures, others are called the koran.
And they have all sort of things in them.
Some people choose to give more importance to some verses and other people more importance to some other verses.

Usually it is sociopolitical circumstances that dictate this augmentation or diminishment of importance of particular verses.

Saudi Arabia's people should be filthy rich the likes of Norway. They are not The reasons are many but if they were, maybe they'd put Norway's sexual liberties to blushing shame. Who knows.

When albanians frist came to Greece they started getting baptized to christianity en mass. Noone killed them when they got back to Albania.
And yet in Bosnia Hergegovina young kids are turning jihadists like in the UK or other parts of Europe.

it's like a facebook entry for relationships: it's complicated.

[Felch]

Maher begins with his conclusion (ISLAM=BAD, derp) and looks for confirmation bias.

Just like you seem to do.

Challenge what? Your idiotic anti-islamic opinions?

I don't give a **** if you want to be a bigot. It's just a bit irritating that you are a coward and not embracing your beliefs... because they make you out to be a serious *******.

You're beginning with a conclusion (ISLAM = EVERYTHING ELSE) and you aren't even looking for evidence to support it. Probably because it doesn't exist.

[Felch]

When millions of people all claim to belong to a group yet all disagree about what that group membership actually means, what it stands for or what it teaches, then yes trying to make claims about what that group means is pretty pointless.

Then again it's much easier to point at those nasty muslims isn't it. You go right ahead, I feel like you and Ben could end up good friends at the end of all this.

If that group rejects human rights, then yes, it is easy to point at those nasty Muslims.

[Sava]

Of the big three, Islam is probably the most diverse religion. Blanket statements about that group of people is absolute mental retardation.

Frankly, I can't find any actual purpose for this discussion, other than it's an opportunity for racist ass people to fly their flag.

Seriously Felch, your behavior in this thread is definitely face punch worthy.

[kentonio]

If that group rejects human rights, then yes, it is easy to point at those nasty Muslims.

Ah yes, as long as we ignore all the members of that group who don't.