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  • It's ok, they get to die being proud American capitalists instead of dirty liberal socialist commies. That's got to count for something right?

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    • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
      I wish I had a National Health System. I hate it when patients go away and die because they can't afford to pay for treatment.
      goodness, does that really happen?
      Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

      Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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      • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
        I wish I had a National Health System. I hate it when patients go away and die because they can't afford to pay for treatment.
        goodness, does that really happen?
        Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

        Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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        • Yes it does, and more than twice over!
          "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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          • Is it even worse than when they just get bankrupted by the bills? Or when they just don't see the doctor because they think they can't afford it?
            The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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            • Our public health system is far from perfect but it is needs based, so sorry to hear that Dr S. It must be very hard for doctors to see that every day.
              Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

              Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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              • Your overall point was wrong incidentally. The lastest figures I can find (2012) from the Office for National Statistics show the life expectancy at birth in the UK for the general population (so including any minor lowering for differences between ethnic groups) is 78.71 years for males and 82.58 years for females.
                Numbers I'm seeing are 78 for men, and 82 for women in the UK.



                Numbers I'm seeing for white folks in the US are pretty close to that. So both systems have roughly equivalent outcomes.
                Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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                • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                  Numbers I'm seeing are 78 for men, and 82 for women in the UK.



                  Numbers I'm seeing for white folks in the US are pretty close to that. So both systems have roughly equivalent outcomes.
                  Ben Kenobi doesn't care if black people die

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                  • To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                      Numbers I'm seeing are 78 for men, and 82 for women in the UK.



                      Numbers I'm seeing for white folks in the US are pretty close to that. So both systems have roughly equivalent outcomes.
                      I imagine that it'd rise if Scotland had buggered off. Parts of Glasgow have Russian levels of male life expectancy.

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                      • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        Numbers I'm seeing are 78 for men, and 82 for women in the UK.



                        Numbers I'm seeing for white folks in the US are pretty close to that. So both systems have roughly equivalent outcomes.
                        Please provide a link to these figures, as the CDC show for 2010 they were 76.5 for white US males and 81.3 for white US females. Thus making your point wrong.

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                        • I imagine that it'd rise if Scotland had buggered off. Parts of Glasgow have Russian levels of male life expectancy.
                          Indeed. Isn't it the Appalachia of the UK?
                          Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                          "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                          • Please provide a link to these figures, as the CDC show for 2010 they were 76.5 for white US males and 81.3 for white US females. Thus making your point wrong.
                            For 2012, the difference would be, at max a year for the men and less than half for the women. US having a larger sample would make it a wash, really.
                            Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                            "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                            • It would also be telling to see what the figures are for those 5+

                              Ben Kenobi doesn't care if black people die
                              Not sure how controlling for race provokes this conclusion. You're supposed to control for relevant factors in order to draw an accurate conclusion.
                              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                              "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                              • Have some nice time series charts. You may have to follow the link to see them unfortunately.

                                Data from World Bank


                                Data from World Bank


                                Data from World Bank
                                One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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