downsizing US military

[100% Wolf]

Who told you he meant Moscow-Stalingrad line?
I've read the full analysis. It's quite detailed and realistic and its main idea - "Mr. Prime-Minister you are asking us to do an impossible thing". It's translation of the original documents to Russian:

http://militera.lib.ru/research/rzheshevsky1/01.html#

But I can't find the English text.

p.s. It seems you stupid Yankees will never understand what kind of war it was for us. Hitler could won only in one case - all Russians are dead. That was a war of total extermination. Nuked Moscow wouldn't change a thing for us, 'cause surrender was not an option, you moron.

What other line did the Germans reach? And it doesn't matter if you idiots think "surrender is not an option" after we bomb you into the stone age. With all your factories destroyed and with important railroad hubs like Moscow eliminated your armies can't last. I'm sure the Japanese thought "surrender is not an option" until they finally capitulated and offered unconditional surrender.

[Serb]

The Japanese surrendered when their million Quantung army was destroyed by Russians. Your own American war planners estimated that war with Japan would last till 1947. With their forces destroyed on continent Japanese had no chance. And nobody carried a policy of extermination of population on occupied Japanese territories (if we don't count nuking and firebombing of their cities by USAF of course). So for them surrender was an option. For Russians surrender meant inevitable death by hands of Hitler's beasts.
Yes, I know you feel pity you or Hitler failed to bomb us to the stone age and completely exterminate us. I just feel your pain, nazi.
But the truth is - Hitler has failed, and you had no balls to even a try, 'cause you realized you will fail too.

[Hauldren Collider]

No, Japan surrendered because it got nuked. They were not worried about a Soviet amphibious invasion, the Allied invasion was much more pressing. The Soviets didn't have the ships or resources to mount an amphibious assault of any kind.

[100% Wolf]

Serb lives in a parallel universe where Hirohito was more worried about several hundred thousand Japanese in Manchuria than about the prospect of the population of the home islands being annihilated.

The Soviets had basically no navy in the Far East and had no hope of threatening Japan itself. Only a deluded Russian nationalist would try to give the USSR credit for Japan's surrender to the US.

[Serb]

Until Hirohito had an army there was at least a hope. But when your army crushed, your cities bombed, there is no hope at all.

[Sava]

The Japanese surrendered when their million Quantung army was destroyed by Russians.

holy ****ing ****!

This is the most retarded nonsense I've ever heard in my life.

[Hauldren Collider]

The Japanese refused to surrender even after we conquered Okinawa. Compared to that, losing Manchuria was not that big a deal.

[100% Wolf]

The army in Manchuria was a mere shell of its former self after four years of diverting resources to the war with the US and UK. The only potential use Manchuria had was as a bargaining chip and the Japanese weren't in a position to negotiate. The only things you accomplished with your little military adventure was:
1. Helping the Chinese Communist Party take control of Manchuria setting the stage for their conquest of China and one of the most murderous regimes in history
2. Establishment of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, one of the most evil regimes in history

Well done, *******s.

[Hauldren Collider]

I'm sure they found the rapid destruction of the Kwantung Army alarming, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't as scary as suddenly losing contact with a major industrial city and subsequently discovering that it had somehow become a giant hole in the ground. And then having that happen again.

[Sava]

Kwantung contributed to the Japanese surrender, sure... but is far down on the list of contributing factors.

But in the Serbaverse, the great Russian Army of rapists single handedly defeated Imperial Japan.

What a crock of ****.

[Serb]

They were not worried about a Soviet amphibious invasion, the Allied invasion was much more pressing. The Soviets didn't have the ships or resources to mount an amphibious assault of any kind.

Of course. I'm not saying Japanese worried about Soviet amphibious invasion to Japan.
But it seems you fail to understand that Japan islands was just a heartland of the Japanese Empire. They occupied China and held a huge army there.


Why do you think one million of Japanese troops were not relocated to Japan from China to defend the heartland in face of the American invasion? 'Cause China was vital for the Empire. Firebombings and nuking of Japanese cities on one hand and loss of China and Quantung army on the other hand made any further resistance futile.
BUT, if for Japanese surrender meant death in concentration camps, if their enemy openly stated he wages the war of extermination, I can assure you - the Japanese would have never surrendered.

[Serb]

Kwantung contributed to the Japanese surrender, sure... but is far down on the list of contributing factors.

But in the Serbaverse, the great Russian Army of rapists single handedly defeated Imperial Japan.

What a crock of ****.

[Sava]

You are hopelessly retarded.

[Serb]

The army in Manchuria was a mere shell of its former self after four years of diverting resources to the war with the US and UK. The only potential use Manchuria had was as a bargaining chip and the Japanese weren't in a position to negotiate. The only things you accomplished with your little military adventure was:
1. Helping the Chinese Communist Party take control of Manchuria setting the stage for their conquest of China and one of the most murderous regimes in history
2. Establishment of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, one of the most evil regimes in history

Well done, *******s.

YOU have asked for that, f*ckers.

[Serb]

Surely US INSISTED on Soviet participation in the war with Japan only because they were good Samaritans who wanted to provide Soviet Union with more space for establishing friendly socialists regimes in Asia, not for the purposes of saving American lives.