Woman Who Can't Afford Her Own Birth Control Scrapes Up Money For Congressional Run

[Elok]

Have condoms ceased to exist?

The Pill was revolutionary for a reason. Condoms have issues--some men refuse to use them, and if you have latex sensitivity your options are limited. The non-latex kind feel like shrink wrap, no joke. Just horrible.

I don't know the ins and outs of insurance. I think healthcare in this country is pretty screwy regardless, but I don't know enough to venture an opinion.

[Ben Kenobi]

Have you ever been ecperienced? Well I have.

I don't believe people need to have experience in order to form ordered moral opinions about things. We don't believe that children need to experience things in order to know that they are wrong. That's why we try to teach them what works and what does not work. If they had to experience them first, there would be no point in teaching them otherwise.

I do believe that at some point - there has to be input from people who do have experience and that their experiences are valuable to people who have not. That's my point here. Condoms really aren't a great deal. Scott Hahn talks about contraception, how he and his wife used it early on, and were encouraged to do so by their presbyterian church, and he talks about how he came to the opposite opinion in his marriage with Kimberly, and the process they went through.

This is why I no longer support contraception. I used to before I converted, but after talking to other people and other folks including reading Scott Hahn's book, I became convinced that his argument is stronger than my reasons for supporting it.

This is what fun et al, miss out on. It's easy to dismiss someone's opinion, but it's much harder to dismiss the source of said opinion.

[Kidlicious]

I don't believe people need to have experience in order to form ordered moral opinions about things. We don't believe that children need to experience things in order to know that they are wrong. That's why we try to teach them what works and what does not work. If they had to experience them first, there would be no point in teaching them otherwise.

I do believe that at some point - there has to be input from people who do have experience and that their experiences are valuable to people who have not. That's my point here. Condoms really aren't a great deal. Scott Hahn talks about contraception, how he and his wife used it early on, and were encouraged to do so by their presbyterian church, and he talks about how he came to the opposite opinion in his marriage with Kimberly, and the process they went through.

This is why I no longer support contraception. I used to before I converted, but after talking to other people and other folks including reading Scott Hahn's book, I became convinced that his argument is stronger than my reasons for supporting it.

This is what fun et al, miss out on. It's easy to dismiss someone's opinion, but it's much harder to dismiss the source of said opinion.

You don't have to have experience but it certainly helps. On the one hand children don't develop morally until they become adults. They just accept what you tell them because they don't know any better. But as they get older and have more experience they start to form their own moral opinions. On the other hand most of them remain stupid their whole lives and just go on believing what others tell them to believe, either friends or family.

[Ben Kenobi]

You don't have to have experience but it certainly helps. On the one hand children don't develop morally until they become adults. They just accept what you tell them because they don't know any better. But as they get older and have more experience they start to form their own moral opinions. On the other hand most of them remain stupid their whole lives and just go on believing what others tell them to believe, either friends or family.

In a sense, very little is actually known on a first-hand basis. It's why my field does the things they do. We attempt to uncover the sources of knowledge, and why we know the things we do. It's really very enlightening to chart the course of scientific investigation and how, if I told you that the foremost evidence in favor of a heliocentric universe was discovered by someone you don't know.

[MrFun]

Aren't you the one who says that you have to participate in something to have an opinion, which is why only gay people can have an opinion on gay affairs?



I think it's hilarious that you think your opinion is relevant on this and call out 'all the other guys here.' Last I checked, Kidicious can and does actually have experience.

I never have said that straight people cannot have opinions on issues concerning gay people, especially considering many straight people have family or friends who are gay. I have a great appreciation for straight allies, for instance.

And nor have I ever said that men cannot have an opinion on contraception or abortion. My speaking out against opinions I disagree with on issues does not equal my declaring others cannot have their opinion on said issue.

I cannot believe that you teach.

[Kidlicious]

In a sense, very little is actually known on a first-hand basis. It's why my field does the things they do. We attempt to uncover the sources of knowledge, and why we know the things we do. It's really very enlightening to chart the course of scientific investigation and how, if I told you that the foremost evidence in favor of a heliocentric universe was discovered by someone you don't know.

The nature of education is teaching objective facts, which are imortant, but not enough. The child needs to be able to go beyond that into the subjective. If they don't they will nevrr become morally intelligent.

[Ben Kenobi]

The child needs to be able to go beyond that into the subjective. If they don't they will nevrr become morally intelligent.

Only if you believe morality is subjective. In which case, why study it?

[Kidlicious]

Only if you believe morality is subjective. In which case, why study it?

Because you have to start with objectivity. Then you find that the truth is an objevtive uncertainty. That stirs your passion for it. Passion and subjective thinking go hand in hand. But in school they only do the objective part. Either that or they teach that the truth can't really be known. Either way they discourage passion.

[Kidlicious]

More accurately they teach historic facts or facts about dogma and rules such as common core. They don't teach the subjective nature of truth. Stupid people are left without the tools and knowledge they need to believe in truth.

[Ban Kenobi]

The reason I'm not a socialist is because the centrsl planners think birth control is more important than housing.

If more people use birth control we won't need as many houses

[molly bloom]

As usual, you would be wrong (on people not being vaccinated against it). I, for instance, am.

So am I. I wasn't vaccinated last week, but in the early 1970s. Doh......

[molly bloom]

Aren't all DoD personnel deployed to the middle east required to get it? Molly's google-fu is slipping.

Are you permanently a horse's arse, or are there rare occasions you're something else ?

Mildly curious.

The last case of smallpox in the United States was in 1949. The last naturally occurring case in the world was in Somalia in 1977. After the disease was eliminated from the world, routine vaccination against smallpox among the general public was stopped because it was no longer necessary for prevention.

http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/smallpox/overview/disease-facts.asp

By the way, I quoted the CDC website for you, since it's a surefire bet you won't have read any of the books on the history of medicine or epidemiology that I have bothered to read.

As usual, you would be wrong (on people not being vaccinated against it). I, for instance, am.

Why would you be vaccinated MONTHLY against smallpox ?

I get tetanus boosters, but that's a different kettle of fish. Your arm must be chock full of lovely vaccination scars if you get smallpox jabs monthly....

[molly bloom]

Last I checked, Kidicious can and does actually have experience.

And by your own admission of lack of emissions, you don't. So shut your yap.

[molly bloom]

Finally - most forms of contraception (not condoms), are abortifacients.

Really ? Care to provide us with a list of these abortifacients then ?

[molly bloom]

We attempt to uncover the sources of knowledge

'We' ? You're seriously using the inclusive in that sentence ?

You're having a laugh.