Woman Who Can't Afford Her Own Birth Control Scrapes Up Money For Congressional Run

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Why do you need insurance to pay for something that isn't a risk? It's just a middleman then. You're not saving any money; it's coming right out of your premium.*

*You might be saving money because it's legal for insurance companies to bargain for discounts such that people without insurance pay more; this is only legal so as to encourage people to buy insurance.

You're never going to save money by shifting costs onto your business partner. Not only is requiring employers to cover your birth control a flagrant violation of freedom of religion, but it's also just ****ing stupid because there's no such thing as a free lunch and thus ultimately you're paying for it anyway. It's a dumb policy from top to bottom.

[DinoDoc]

it sounds unreasonable to insist that people just cross their legs if they don't want to pay for it.

Forgive me for saying this Elok but this sounds like a ****ing personal problem for the hypothetical people in question. They have the option of taking out a policy for themselves that covers contraception or switching jobs to an employer that offers such a policy but getting the government to use its levers of power to mandate such coverage across the board is ludicrous beyond belief.

[DaShi]

I thought the only known samples of variola left were in two vaults in the U.S. and Russia or something. Are those two labs actually churning out vaccines?

Russia is long suspected of attempting to develop biological weapons using smallpox. It is very likely that there are vials of small pox stored in Russia and other countries that are unaccounted for.

[MrFun]

Forgive me for saying this Elok but this sounds like a ****ing personal problem for the hypothetical people in question. They have the option of taking out a policy for themselves that covers contraception or switching jobs to an employer that offers such a policy but getting the government to use its levers of power to mandate such coverage across the board is ludicrous beyond belief.

I don't see what's so ludicrous about mandating coverage for contraception, considering that reproduction choices and planning are very much a basic part of a woman's health and well being.

[Kidlicious]

I don't see what's so ludicrous about mandating coverage for contraception, considering that reproduction choices and planning are very much a basic part of a woman's health and well being.

Because you're a SOCIALIST!

[Kidlicious]

Btw, I need my apartment more than I need birth control. Thanks for trying though democrats.

[Elok]

Forgive me for saying this Elok but this sounds like a ****ing personal problem for the hypothetical people in question. They have the option of taking out a policy for themselves that covers contraception or switching jobs to an employer that offers such a policy but getting the government to use its levers of power to mandate such coverage across the board is ludicrous beyond belief.

Few people have the luxury to switch jobs for such a reason, even assuming they can find such an alternative employer. Nor will they necessarily have the money to pay for a premium plan. If there's no practical way for many people to prevent unwanted pregnancies on their own, and unwanted pregnancies is a serious issue (as I think it is), then it seems reasonable to involve the government. The pertinent issue, to my way of thinking, is: how many people are in fact unable to afford their contraceptive? I haven't run across the answer to that--everyone kept going on about matters of principle for either side, wherever I looked. Not that I looked all that hard. Healthcare in this country makes my head hurt.

[Ben Kenobi]

Only an idiot such as yourself conflates gender with sexual orientation.

Aren't you the one who says that you have to participate in something to have an opinion, which is why only gay people can have an opinion on gay affairs?

Also, are you saying that only women can have an opinion on contraceptives? So you and I, and all the other dudes on this site need to shut your mouth?

I think it's hilarious that you think your opinion is relevant on this and call out 'all the other guys here.' Last I checked, Kidicious can and does actually have experience.

[Ben Kenobi]

if you rule out all the non-contraceptive uses like PCOS, it sounds unreasonable to insist that people just cross their legs if they don't want to pay for it.

I see. So it's unreasonable to tell the man that if he doesn't want to be a dad, he has to pay child support even if he didn't want the child?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Because you're a SOCIALIST!

I'd rather be a socialist than.... whatever you are!

[Ben Kenobi]

What baffles me, is that anti-choice people who also oppose the use of contraceptives ignore the fact that the use of contraceptives reduces the number of unwanted pregnancies, which in turn, is probably reducing the number of what would have been abortions.

What baffles me is when planned parenthood makes most of their money off abortion, why they would market condoms if condoms were effective at reducing the number of abortions. Follow the money. 2/3rds of everyone who has an abortion was using contraception. Fact. Condoms are not effective at reducing abortion, they are effective at encouraging abortion, as it becomes acceptable when contraception fails.

Finally - most forms of contraception (not condoms), are abortifacients. The same folks that are forcing Catholic pharmacists to dispense abortion, are the same folks hailing CVS's decision to stop dispensing tobacco. If it's the right of a pharmacist to not even stock or equip certain drugs because it believes there is a good moral reason not to do so, than Catholic pharmacists should not be required to dispense.

[Kidlicious]

Aren't you the one who says that you have to participate in something to have an opinion, which is why only gay people can have an opinion on gay affairs?



I think it's hilarious that you think your opinion is relevant on this and call out 'all the other guys here.' Last I checked, Kidicious can and does actually have experience.

Have you ever been ecperienced? Well I have.

[Kidlicious]

I'd rather be a socialist than.... whatever you are!

The reason I'm not a socialist is because the centrsl planners think birth control is more important than housing.

[DinoDoc]

If there's no practical way for many people to prevent unwanted pregnancies on their own,

Have condoms ceased to exist?

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More importantly making your employer/university (in Sandra Fluke's case) pay for your birth control won't save you any ****ing money.