Woman Who Can't Afford Her Own Birth Control Scrapes Up Money For Congressional Run

[Ban Kenobi]

In what way is providing all women with contrceptives regardless of need not socialism?

In what way is proving all children with education not socialism?

[Hauldren Collider]

All prescription medications that you take everyday (regularly and habitually) are "routine" so I guess they're not eligible for coverage...

I think you could probably be less pedantic and recognize that long-term chronic illnesses don't fall under the guise of routine medical expenses. That said, if these medications are things like aspirin, yeah, routine. Chemotherapy? No. This really isn't hard.

[Guynemer]

Something which is regular and habitual. You know, the same meaning routine has in EVERY OTHER CONTEXT.

Buying allergy medicine is a routine expense. Buying milk is a routine expense. Getting new tires is a routine expense. Paying rent or mortgage is a routine expense. Buying contraceptive pills, every goddamn month, is a routine expense.

Insurance is for things that aren't routine.

Your house burns down, or your water heater explodes, homeowner's insurance will cover you. You need new paint or new carpeting? That's routine, pay for it yourself.

A tree falls and crushes your car, insurance has your back. You need an oil change? Pay for that yourself.

You break your collarbone and need to go to the hospital, insurance is meant to cover that. You scrape your knee and need to wash it and put a band-aid? Pay for it yourself.

You're a native English speaker, Guy. Don't waste my time feigning bull**** ignorance.

No, I am legitimately confused here. Say you need blood pressure medicine, or medicine to prevent rejection of an organ transplant. That is something you would have to take every single day. Is that routine?

[Ban Kenobi]

I think you could probably be less pedantic and recognize that long-term chronic illnesses don't fall under the guise of routine medical expenses.

Including long-term chronic illnesses that require "birth control pills"....?

If you mean "small expenses" say "small" instead of trying to change the definition of a word like "routine" and insulting people who actually speak English and know what words actually mean.

[Guynemer]

I mean, ****, what is more expensive: covering birth control, or covering all the medical costs of pregnancy and birth?

[Hauldren Collider]

Being more specific to gribbler's example for prescription drugs: Anything with risk associated with it is a valid case for insurance. I could get some sort of long term chronic illness out of the blue, and insurance would cover that--there was a remote risk of me needing an expensive treatment. Insurance mitigates this risk. Even if it becomes part of "my routine" it's not routine because of its rarity.

[Hauldren Collider]

No, I am legitimately confused here. Say you need blood pressure medicine, or medicine to prevent rejection of an organ transplant. That is something you would have to take every single day. Is that routine?

Seriously guy, please use your brain thanks. That would fall under the costs for the original treatment in the first place, even though it is in an accounting sense an ongoing cost.

[Hauldren Collider]

I mean, ****, what is more expensive: covering birth control, or covering all the medical costs of pregnancy and birth?

It's like you aren't even reading or understanding anything Felch wrote.

[Kidlicious]

In what way is proving all children with education not socialism?

It is socialism and it's unfair to people without kids. In fact the system is unfair to people without kids. If I don't have kids why should I pay some rich persons bill?

[snrjefe]

So statins shouldn't be covered until one has a heart attack? Or is high cholesterol the condition that makes it not routine? If the latter, why isn't being sexually fertile the preceding condition to pregnancy that warrants covering birth control?

[Ban Kenobi]

It is socialism and it's unfair to people without kids. In fact the system is unfair to people without kids. If I don't have kids why should I pay some rich persons bill?

Do you plan on dying before you get too old to work so no one else has to provide for your needs? And I'm amazed you categorize people with kids as "rich"

[Guynemer]

It's like you aren't even reading or understanding anything Felch wrote.

Because it doesn't make logical sense to me.

Where is the line drawn? Taking a prescription medicine every day is routine for me, but it is a prescription medicine; I can't buy it out of pocket off the shelf. I have to see a doctor, who has to write the prescription. Is that "routine", or is it not?

[Hauldren Collider]

Why should they be covered? Do you think you're actually going to save money by putting it on the insurance company?

Instead of getting ****ing hung up on the meaning of the word "routine", could you idiots please focus on the relevant point, which is, exactly what the benefit of having an insurance company cover something that ISN'T A RISK actually is? Morons.

[Guynemer]

Being more specific to gribbler's example for prescription drugs: Anything with risk associated with it is a valid case for insurance.

Pregnancy isn't a risk?

[Felch]

No, I am legitimately confused here.

Then you are fucking retarded.

Say you need blood pressure medicine, or medicine to prevent rejection of an organ transplant. That is something you would have to take every single day. Is that routine?

Blood pressure meds are routine. If you can't afford blood pressure pills, then you need to stop gargling french fries and eat a goddamn vegetable. Economies of scale though make that less of a problem (just like with contraceptives).

Organ transplants (and any necessary drugs to assist) are not routine. If there's long term care associated with them, then that is also not routine.

I'm not answering any more questions about what routine means. You're a native English speaker, and if you can't use your common sense to distinguish something that is normal from something that insurance should cover, then you're not worth engaging in conversation.