Republicans have once again demonstrated that they are the party...

[Aeson]

I am with MrFun and think we should use more nonsensical, slightly punnish, and derogatory labels for political groups. demon-craps ... re-pube-lickins ... tea-baggers ... ***-eunichs ... green party (already bad enough)

[Sava]

btw this is erious question

like when i make sexy time i has clean shirt nearby

i like to stay a little bit in her after but it drips

and i dont like sleeping in ***

[Krill]

I agree! I am not ranting against Obamacare. I am ranting about a system of unfunded mandates. While I am a fiscal conservative, I am not against tax increases where they make sense. The American people have spoken...they wanted healthcare reform. Now the question is...how do we pay for it and make it sustainable?

Ultimately? You focus on creating a society that is capable of maintaining it's health and productivity. For example, the way that Walmart uses people as effective slave labour is a good example of what shouldn't be acceptable (http://policymic.com/articles/45893/...imum-wage-jobs). Socialized medecine isn't the be-all-and-end-all solution, it's a tool to reach the point where people are supported to maintain their health so that they can continue to contribute to society, rather than detract from it. The fact is that most people, regardless of political affiliation or personal beliefs, fail to grasp what the point of a society is.

How this interacts with people's fears of death and wanting to be kept alive at all costs, now that's a completely separate issue and one that people have a wide variety of views on. I agree with you that spending so much money on life prolonging treatment is expensive, but the ethical concerns of society are so varied it is a hard topic to talk about without some people resorting to calling it a debate about senicide.

[MrFun]

Ultimately? You focus on creating a society that is capable of maintaining it's health and productivity. For example, the way that Walmart uses people as effective slave labour is a good example of what shouldn't be acceptable (http://policymic.com/articles/45893/...imum-wage-jobs). Socialized medecine isn't the be-all-and-end-all solution, it's a tool to reach the point where people are supported to maintain their health so that they can continue to contribute to society, rather than detract from it. The fact is that most people, regardless of political affiliation or personal beliefs, fail to grasp what the point of a society is.

How this interacts with people's fears of death and wanting to be kept alive at all costs, now that's a completely separate issue and one that people have a wide variety of views on. I agree with you that spending so much money on life prolonging treatment is expensive, but the ethical concerns of society are so varied it is a hard topic to talk about without some people resorting to calling it a debate about senicide.

QFT

[MrFun]

I am with MrFun and think we should use more nonsensical, slightly punnish, and derogatory labels for political groups. demon-craps ... re-pube-lickins ... tea-baggers ... ***-eunichs ... green party (already bad enough)

Racism is too prevalent within the Tea Bagger movement. So again, why should bigotry and hate be respected?

[DinoDoc]

Racism is too prevalent within the Tea Bagger movement. So again, why should bigotry and hate be respected?

[Ben Kenobi]

I am with MrFun and think we should use more nonsensical, slightly punnish, and derogatory labels for political groups.

Hey, where's Elok to correct you for your obvious bad faith tactics? Gosh.

my posts in this particular thread are not meant to be taken seriously.

Hey, look, more bad faith. Elok nowhere to be seen.

[Ben Kenobi]

Racism is too prevalent within the Tea Bagger movement. So again, why should bigotry and hate be respected?

Last I checked the party that didn't support slavery was the party that has tea party members. Why, if you assert that racism is prevalent would the racists find their home there instead of the party that did support slavery?

The party of Wilson, that was actively quoted as supporting Jim Crow?

Perhaps the answer is that the tea party, isn't racist at all and is combatting racists? Like planned parenthood which seeks to reduce black political power through the means of abortion? They've been remarkably successful in their goal.

[kentonio]

Jesus christ you're the most ridiculous excuse for a history graduate that ever lived. Go google Southern Strategy and then ban yourself in penance for your stupidity.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

It's not about being "politically correct." It's about not using idiotic language so that people will take your argument more seriously.

Who are those people?

[DinoDoc]

Jesus christ you're the most ridiculous excuse for a history graduate that ever lived.

I would like to introduce you to MrFun.

[regexcellent]

I think Ben wins out over MrFun in the raw intellectual capacity dimension (not a major accomplishment).

[Guynemer]

I think he likes to present himself that way, certainly. I have significant doubts as to the truth of that, grown over years of reading his posts. Also, he is more intellectually dishonest than MF, and everyone else here, by orders of magnitude.

[Ben Kenobi]

Also, he is more intellectually dishonest than MF, and everyone else here, by orders of magnitude.

Which beliefs of mine are ones that I believe are actually false but say they are true here?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

I think he likes to present himself that way, certainly. I have significant doubts as to the truth of that, grown over years of reading his posts. Also, he is more intellectually dishonest than MF, and everyone else here, by orders of magnitude.

I think there is plenty of intelectual dishonesty in both camps. As an example, Fun just went on about how none of his posts should be taken seriously (clown nose on) and then continues in a spirited defense as to why his posts should be taken seriously.