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  • I'm just going to ask this straight up, Ben: what can we do to get you to go away? If I mailed you $500, would you stop posting forever?


    You couldn't meet my price.

    What makes you think any of the other candidates would have done that?
    The whole Romney campaign revolved around his perceived 'electability'. Not only did he fail to defeat Obama, his massive negative coattails hurt downballot senate races. Especially in North freakin' Dakota. Ugh. Terrible candidate.

    I personally know evangelicals who summed up the race as between a "Muslim and a Mormon".

    (Here's a hint: none of them. The electorate in 2012 was slightly different than the one in 2012. Demographics changed enough that with an election that close it made the difference.)
    Demographics don't explain that Romney had fewer net voters than McCain in 2008. Unless moderate, 'electable' Romney, somehow failed to attract no new GOP voters whatsoever.

    Again, I had solid numbers, from, January, February of last year. They proved exactly right in October. Nothing changed in 8 months.
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    • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
      I'm just going to ask this straight up, Ben: what can we do to get you to go away? If I mailed you $500, would you stop posting forever?
      No, but he'd offer to, then take it back after receiving the cash, citing some technicality.
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      • No, but he'd offer to, then take it back after receiving the cash, citing some technicality.
        Apparently Trotsky isn't commie enough for some.
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        • Best part? Ben's preferred alternative to Romney was Herman Cain.

          Discuss.
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          • In fairness, Herman Cain's tax plan was pretty awesome, even if he didn't really understand why.
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            • Best part? Ben's preferred alternative to Romney was Herman Cain.

              Discuss.
              Oh God. I was hurting seeing the Herman Cain DL posting here and I could not respond!

              Too funny.

              Yes, my preferred alternative was Cain and then Santorum after he won Iowa. Santorum ended up piling as many states in 2012 as Romney did in 2008.
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              • In fairness, Herman Cain's tax plan was pretty awesome, even if he didn't really understand why.
                That's what won me over. I loved the tax plan.

                Ohh, Herman. What a ride that was.
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                • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                  I'm just going to ask this straight up, Ben: what can we do to get you to go away? If I mailed you $500, would you stop posting forever?
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • Originally posted by Elok View Post
                    Too lazy to look it up, but didn't the GOP get slapped around after the shutdown in the nineties?
                    In the 1996 Congressional elections after the shutdown the GOP kept the majority in the House (they lost 3 seats) and gained seats (gain of two) in the Senate.
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                    • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                      You as usual are ****ing retarded. EVs swing wildly from a 1-2% swing in the popular vote. If the popular vote had been only slightly different nationwide, Romney would have won by a similar margin.
                      51%-47% with 332 EV's is perfectly respectable, and when it's an incumbent president sitting on an atrocious economy it's absolutely amazing.

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                      • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        Yes, my preferred alternative was Cain and then Santorum after he "won" Iowa.
                        FTFY. Both unelectable in their 2012 versions. (Of course, I said that about GWB vs McCain in the 2000 primaries, so I guess anything can happen.)
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                        • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                          51%-47% with 332 EV's is perfectly respectable, and when it's an incumbent president sitting on an atrocious economy it's absolutely amazing.
                          None of this changes the point about holding on by his dick hairs. Whether he campaigned well is irrelevant. The point is that he was re-elected by the smallest margin in a long long time. Just imagine if details about Benghazi had come out sooner, or if we had heard about the NSA leaking just a few months earlier. He would have been completely toast. Romney's loss did not represent the decline of the Republican party. It wasn't the end of the Democratic party when in 1984, Walter Mondale lost in a huge ****ing landslide, and the Democrats were left with control of the House of Representatives while Republicans held the Senate and White House.

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                          • Both unelectable in their 2012 versions. (Of course, I said that about GWB vs McCain in the 2000 primaries, so I guess anything can happen.)
                            We'll never know how well Herman could have done. Polls had him on top and surely he was a better choice than Gingrich and Romney. Ugh.
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                            • Romney's loss did not represent the decline of the Republican party
                              Absolutely true. Romney lost because he was unelectable. He was unelectable in January, in June and in November. He was remarkably consistant in this regard.
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                              • Ahahahaha.

                                Cain would have been trounced.

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