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  • The Gold Plated Ambulance

    Is the deliberately provocative title to Kevin Williamson excellent article on free markets and healthcare. He makes a convincing argument.
    A few years ago, a friend of mine was mortally ill with little prospect of treatment for his condition. He learned that there was a newly developed experimental surgery that might be of help, but t…
    Last edited by Zevico; September 29, 2013, 09:46.
    "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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    Fantastic article Zevico.

    the best social innovations do not rely on philanthropic motives, which are notoriously unreliable.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Zevico View Post
      Is the deliberately provocative title to Kevin Williamson excellent article on free markets and earth care. He makes a convincing argument.
      he starts off with a strawman, then proceeds to state the bleeding obvious (new technology is expensive, often innovations in one area will have an impact in another, resources are not infinite etc.). we then get a bizarre attack on 'death panels'. it's strange for someone who has just argued that resources are limited to then rail against the means that most countries adopt to ration those resources. afterwards, a predictable attack on obamacare and a standard supply side argument which at no point recognises the obvious differences between the market for cars and healthcare.

      in short, the author doesn't know what he's talking about, and is actually quite a bad writer as well.
      "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

      "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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      • #4
        There's no strawman. What he describes is what liberals everywhere actually feel about the healthcare industry.
        If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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        • #5
          really? have you asked all of them?
          "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

          "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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          • #6
            I have a sufficiently large sample size to extrapolate.
            If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Zevico View Post
              Is the deliberately provocative title to Kevin Williamson excellent article on free markets and healthcare. He makes a convincing argument.
              http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...n-d-williamson
              Hey guys, I make fun of the Huffington Post then post an article from the National Review.
              “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
              "Capitalism ho!"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                There's no strawman. What he describes is what liberals everywhere actually feel about the healthcare industry.
                Cockney is right. Williamson is trying to trick you. His opening story implies that wealthy people will no longer have access to healthcare under what he claims liberals want. That is a strawman. That you bought it so easily shows your ignorance.

                I'm glad I made this thread: http://apolyton.net/showthread.php/2...ldren-Collider

                You don't understand the economics of poverty or any economic thinking beyond the 18th century.
                “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                "Capitalism ho!"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DaShi View Post
                  Hey guys, I make fun of the Huffington Post then post an article from the National Review.
                  Sad, isn't it?
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • #10
                    The complete lack of critical thinking that garnered that article any attention is what is truly sad.
                    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                    "Capitalism ho!"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Zevico's Article
                      The most generous national health-care program we can imagine is not going to have the resources to provide each and every one of the 314 million citizens of these United States with the same kind of health care that Bill Gates can access.
                      No ****, really?
                      John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                      • #12
                        I must have a better imagination than Zevico's Article! I can imagine a health-care system that has sexy robot nurses (of whichever gender(s) you prefer) performing healthcare while their masters restfully take a nap (or pretend to, so as to not trigger the robot's embarrasment routines, as they have been programmed to be very shy ... but also mischevious in a very nice way). They caressingly rejuvenate each and every cell in the patient's body with sweet scented nano-lasers ... all running on zero-point energy.

                        Just reading those sentences you also imagined something better than Bill Gates having a colonoscopy

                        ... and now you've imagined something much worse than even Obamacare ...

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                        • #13
                          What he describes is what liberals everywhere actually feel about the healthcare industry.
                          Exactly. We've all heard them argue, "why should some people die because they are poor?" The only difference is that liberals believe in universal healthcare and assisted suicide. Dying because you are poor is bad, but letting your doctor kill you is not. Go figure.
                          Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                          "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                          • #14
                            His opening story implies that wealthy people will no longer have access to healthcare under what he claims liberals want.
                            Sure they will. In India, in Thailand. Medical tourism is a reality. Wealthy people will always have access to health care. His argument is that folks of modest means won't have access to health care - because they will be force to rely on the public system, and they won't qualify for subsidies, and they will see rationed care.

                            He's right. Why did so many Canadians travel to the US to get treatment? Expensive treatment > none at all.
                            Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                            "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                            2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                              Dying because you are poor is bad, but letting your doctor kill you is not. Go figure.
                              wantX != !wantX

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