I think every Congressperson (Democrat and Republican) should follow Obama's example and give five percent of their salary back to the Treasury. That still won't help pay off the debt, but it would show that congresspersons are human and actually give a fuck about the country.
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Congressmen already get paid ****ing nothing considering their (average) level of education and qualifications. Approximately half of the House of Representatives has a PhD, J.D., or M.D, along with something like 60 senators. Most could be making twice as much in the private sector. And remember, they have to own two houses, one of which is in an incredibly expensive area. At times they have to work essentially 24/7. If you have kids, there's no ****ing way you're sending them to DC public schools, so be prepared to pay out the ass for a DC private school.
The hours suck, the pay sucks, the constant commuting to and from your home state sucks, and to top it all off, Congress itself is almost as popular as the Taliban.
People complain about the revolving door in congress where congressmen leave and work as Washington lawyers or lobbyists. They complain about the overall quality of their representatives. Why is the first reaction, then, to cut pay, rather than increase it?If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostCongressmen already get paid ****ing nothing considering their (average) level of education and qualifications. Approximately half of the House of Representatives has a PhD, J.D., or M.D, along with something like 60 senators. Most could be making twice as much in the private sector. And remember, they have to own two houses, one of which is in an incredibly expensive area. At times they have to work essentially 24/7. If you have kids, there's no ****ing way you're sending them to DC public schools, so be prepared to pay out the ass for a DC private school.
They don't have to own two houses. Just because you continually repeat a verifiably incorrect statement doesn't make it correct. They need to have a residence in their home state. This doesn't have to be a house that they own. They need a place to stay near enough to work in DC. This also doesn't have to be a house that they own.
People complain about the revolving door in congress where congressmen leave and work as Washington lawyers or lobbyists. They complain about the overall quality of their representatives. Why is the first reaction, then, to cut pay, rather than increase it?
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Originally posted by Wiglaf View PostMost 40 year old JDs aren't worth even 160k
Originally posted by Aeson View PostThey don't have to own two houses. Just because you continually repeat a verifiably incorrect statement doesn't make it correct. They need to have a residence in their home state. This doesn't have to be a house that they own. They need a place to stay near enough to work in DC. This also doesn't have to be a house that they own.
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I dont know reg, you gotta be a pretty terrible person in some regard to be a highly paid lawyer."I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
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Originally posted by regexcellent View PostPeople making less as 40 year old JDs aren't the ones we want running the country.
For ****'s sake why does this distinction matter? DC area housing is expensive whether you own or rent. It doesn't ****ing matter and you know it. Then there's the problem of travel to and from their districts every single ****ing weekend. They can either pay for it partly out of pocket and partly out of their meager travel allowance or pay for it out of campaign funds served up by big donors.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Originally posted by regexcellent View PostFor ****'s sake why does this distinction matter?
DC area housing is expensive whether you own or rent.
You are also missing the obvious distinction between maintaining a residence in your home state, and owning a house in your own state.
It doesn't ****ing matter and you know it.
For those who aren't so pathetic, it matters because the phrasing implies a set of requirements that are not the actual requirements. It matters because it illustrates HC's silver spoon perspective on the world, where a "residence" is synonymous with "a house you own". It matters because the phrasing HC uses implies much more necessary cost than is actually necessary.
Then there's the problem of travel to and from their districts every single ****ing weekend. They can either pay for it partly out of pocket and partly out of their meager travel allowance or pay for it out of campaign funds served up by big donors.
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Aeson's a useless idiot. He has two modes of operation: Idiot pedant, and idiot godwin. I put him on ignore after he spent a page and a half arguing that my opinion about immigration isn't actually the opinion I have repeatedly stated, held, and defended and I actually just hate brown people. Kuci and I are also honestly sick of his schtick of pretending that the efficient market hypothesis applies to literally every economic force, e.g. "Well OBVIOUSLY it's good that people are starving--that's just the market having its way!".If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Originally posted by MrFun View PostI think every Congressperson (Democrat and Republican) should follow Obama's example and give five percent of their salary back to the Treasury. That still won't help pay off the debt, but it would show that congresspersons are human and actually give a fuck about the country.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
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