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At will employment works. On the whole, companies really don't go around terminating workers for sport because the hiring and training process is time consuming and expensive. And you don't have to carry a dead-weight body who learns to milk the system for months or years before you can get sufficient documentation to allow termination.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
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As an employee you also learn who to trust and who not to. I worked for some ethically challenged companies and was laid off for no reason other than presumably to make the Directors quarterly numbers. When they came back to me later and begged me to come back, I told them to screw off accordingly and found a better higher paying job in the interim."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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Ah yes, won't someone think of the poor employers who can exploit the workers.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostQFT


At will employment encourages employers to hire, so that they don't have to worry they'll be saddled with deadweight."I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
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Employers reap what they sew, at least that was the case for me.Originally posted by MRT144 View PostAh yes, won't someone think of the poor employers who can exploit the workers.
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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It's a nonsense concept to you because you don't know what it's like to have marginal skills or be ignorant of your rights as a worker. You're such a privileged douche-bag, you just don't know it.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post"exploiting workers" is a nonsense concept, as long as you are free to quit your job."I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
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Then, as long as people are free to quit your job, what's your problem about workers having to quit jobs to find another job, if they don't want to pay any union dues?Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post"exploiting workers" is a nonsense concept, as long as you are free to quit your job.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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Originally posted by MRT144 View PostI feel a monty python skit coming on.
How can you tell he's king?"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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HC doesn't like unions. Thats why.Originally posted by MrFun View PostThen, as long as people are free to quit your job, what's your problem about workers having to quit jobs to find another job, if they don't want to pay any union dues?"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
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Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe View PostHow can you tell he's king?"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
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Having marginal skills is the issue. You need to change that. More people enterring into the workplace presumably alows more marketable skills to be developed. Anything hindering that is a net negative to longer term career success.Originally posted by MRT144 View PostIt's a nonsense concept to you because you don't know what it's like to have marginal skills or be ignorant of your rights as a worker. You're such a privileged douche-bag, you just don't know it."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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How do you get marketable skills if you don't get hired because you don't have previous experience?
How do you get marketable skills if you can't afford college, and don't want to pile up student loan debt?A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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More to do with Whistleblowing aspect: At Will employment is obviously reasonable in multiple circumstances but to be fired (and potentially ****listed) for informing on illegal practices is counter productive for society. I understand that At Will doctrine varies between states, but still...Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat View PostAt will employment works. On the whole, companies really don't go around terminating workers for sport because the hiring and training process is time consuming and expensive. And you don't have to carry a dead-weight body who learns to milk the system for months or years before you can get sufficient documentation to allow termination.You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.
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Why should they quit their job? Their contract of employment is with the employer not some third party union. The union doesn't hold the job strings thats the employer.Originally posted by MrFun View PostThen, as long as people are free to quit your job, what's your problem about workers having to quit jobs to find another job, if they don't want to pay any union dues?"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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