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  • Originally posted by Felch View Post
    Reasonable people can disagree on the nature of the soul, but we should at least accept the premise of human rights. If you sincerely do not believe that human rights exist, then you are a horrible person.



    We get it, you don't believe in human rights.
    There is no consensus on whether human rights apply to fetuses and I did not claim human rights don't exist.

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    • One of things I find curious about so-called "pro-life" advocates, is that they do not give a fvck about a person's rights after they're born.
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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      • Agree with MrFun... thats odd.
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        • Originally posted by Krill View Post
          The interesting point about the personhood timing is exactly how you then classify exactly what crimes the mother can commit against the foetus. Is a miscarriage murder? Manslaughter? What if she intentially tries to self abort? Using a coat hanger? Attempts suicide or puts herself into a position where her life is at risk unless the foetus is aborted (drug OD etc)? Self harm to herself, does that count as assault on the foetus? The fact that a doctor takes part in an abortion procedure can be viewed as protecting the womans health, not just as enabling the abortion itself. I'm pretty sure Imran and I discussed this in the last abortion thread.

          Whichever way you cut it the mother comes first, and the more people fight against giving women control over their own bodies the more danger the foetuses are going to be put. Abortion with a cut off at 24 weeks (late term abortions after this only legal when risk to mothers life etc) is pretty much a reasonable compromise.

          I just pity the women in the world that can't have this.

          I think most pro-life Americans in this thread would be happy to bury the issue if this were the case in the US.
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          • If it don't breathe its dead.

            or to be less succinct.

            If an organism cannot support itself to live then it is not considered alive.

            Note some lifelike organisms like viruses fall into this category.
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            • Originally posted by notyoueither View Post
              Why would it bother you so much that people disagree about and discuss a major issue?
              I know you are trolling, but here is the reason I am doing this:

              We have this discussion at least once a week,

              No one ever has anything new to say about it,

              And no one is ever going to change their minds.


              Hence:

              "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
              "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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              • If you don't like a thread's topic just change the subject to something else like the Civil War or the 2016 presidential election.

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                • Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
                  Oh, it is quite funny, and much more entertaining than the rest of the thread.

                  Speaking of: PAGE SIX!

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                  • Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
                    I know you are trolling, but here is the reason I am doing this:

                    We have this discussion at least once a week,

                    No one ever has anything new to say about it,

                    And no one is ever going to change their minds.

                    It is actually a serious question.

                    People do change their minds. People's positions do evolve. If they never think about it, neither of those things are likely to happen.

                    To me people have made thoughtful, useful posts in this thread.
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                    • Notices, that in every thread everyone IGNORES ME.
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                      • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                        If you don't like a thread's topic just change the subject to something else like the Civil War or the 2016 presidential election.


                        Now THAT is a quality troll.
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                        • Isn't there anything i can say that will get people here to ANYONE LISTEN TO ME... I'd threaten the president except i like him, so I'm out of ideas.
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                          • Originally posted by Thorn View Post
                            Isn't there anything i can say that will get people here to ANYONE LISTEN TO ME... I'd threaten the president except i like him, so I'm out of ideas.
                            Have you considered saying something genuinely interesting and/or thought-provoking?

                            Failing that, you could do what I did and make up a dumb fake porno as a joke. Then draw attention to it for a pity-laugh.
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                            • Originally posted by Elok View Post
                              Have you considered saying something genuinely interesting and/or thought-provoking?
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                              • That won't do; I'm pretty sure Dinner does that already, at least when he doesn't get properly cooked hamburgers.
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