Romney wins presidential debate

[giblets]

No, the Iranians are a bunch of psychos who want to destroy Israel and fund terrorist groups all along Israel's borders. Iran getting the bomb would be a Very Bad Thing.

They can't start a nuclear war with a country that already has nuclear weapons. Seriously, it's not like Israel would be the first country in the history of the world to have an enemy who possesses nuclear weapons.

[DinoDoc]

The Israelis are a bunch of psychos.

Wouldn't it have been a good idea to meet with them in order to calm them down then during his recent UN trip?

[giblets]

Wouldn't it have been a good idea to meet with them in order to calm them down then during his recent UN trip?

Apparently talking to people doesn't do anything and you have to start bombing people whenever they do things you don't like.

[DinoDoc]

Wouldn't it be a good idea then to have met with them and inform them that an attack on Iran would put them at war with the US then if we're to follow your tortured logic?

[giblets]

Wouldn't it be a good idea then to have met with them and inform them that an attack on Iran would put them at war with the US then if we're to follow your tortured logic?

No. We should say "nice doggie" until we hit them with a rock.

[Asher]

HC, why do you like war? Why don't you go sign up for the military?

[regexcellent]

The aspect of Obama's foreign policy that pisses me off the most is his abandonment of Hosni Mubarak. We should have done everything in our power to prop him up. When you don't stand by your allies it shows them that you're not really an ally, and they can't rely on you returning the favor when they help you.

[Asher]

The aspect of Obama's foreign policy that pisses me off the most is his abandonment of Hosni Mubarak. We should have done everything in our power to prop him up.

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Anyway...

[Dinner]

They are not idle. If Iran is on the cusp of getting a bomb, Israel will attack them. Netanyahu is just waiting to see if there's some last chance he can get US help, because that would be less risky than going it alone.

Israel has shown itself more than willing to engage in unilateral strikes if necessary, such as in Iraq and Syria. But Iran is a much tougher target. They could do it, probably. With US help? Definitely.

The problem is as a practical matter Israel can't stop the Iranians from developing a bomb and even the mad bomber of Jerusalem knows that.

[Dinner]

I think it's a pretty apt description of how much of the left feels about American foreign policy.

Yes, but you're obviously stupid. Anyone who believes the bull**** claims of talk radio Republicans that "Obama has been apologizing for America" or "Obama has gone on apology tours" or that the left hates America is a drooling idiot. So put your dunce cap on and go sit in the corner.

[Dinner]

Wouldn't it have been a good idea to meet with them in order to calm them down then during his recent UN trip?

No, they get entirely too much attention as it is. They don't deserve face time with the President until they stop being war mongering ***** so until then they get to talk to the Ambassador just like everyone else. OH, and if I had my way I'd let them know that if they send any jets over Iraq we'll shoot them down so they can either sit quietly like good little children or get kicked in the head and lose American protection.

[kentonio]

The aspect of Obama's foreign policy that pisses me off the most is his abandonment of Hosni Mubarak. We should have done everything in our power to prop him up. When you don't stand by your allies it shows them that you're not really an ally, and they can't rely on you returning the favor when they help you.

Let me get this right, you should have done everything in your power to prop up a dictator who oppressed his own people, while the other countries in the middle east were holding revolutions for freedom? Seriously, that's the America you want to live in?

[DinoDoc]

Since this is a debate thread, any bets on how long into the Veep debate we hear the 1st Biden?

[regexcellent]

Let me get this right, you should have done everything in your power to prop up a dictator who oppressed his own people, while the other countries in the middle east were holding revolutions for freedom? Seriously, that's the America you want to live in?

Yes. We should have also propped up the Shah of Iran more, although not doing so was a colossal mistake orders of magnitude worse than this one. Altogether Mubarak wasn't all that bad for an Arab dictator, and for us it's important to show that we don't abandon our friends, lest we find ourselves without very many.

[regexcellent]

Since this is a debate thread, any bets on how long into the Veep debate we hear the 1st Biden?

I'm sure he'll be articulate and clean.