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That no Republicans voted for it?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Of course not. And not because Obama had no interest in getting their votes. But keep proving that no Republicans voted for the bill. I'm really impressed by your ability to prove that repeatedly.Originally posted by DinoDoc View PostComment
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Be proud that most Republicans in Congress are cold-hearted bastards who simply don't care about sick people
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Jaguar, I think you have another thing to add to your "republicans R dumb" routineOriginally posted by gribbler View PostBe proud that most Republicans are cold-hearted bastards who simply don't care about sick peopleIf there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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The argument was that the changes were done to appeal to the Conservative Democrat block that existed at the time as Oerdin claimed. The GOP was out the negotiations whether that was by choice or by design is irrelevant to the factual claim that Oerdin made.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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I wasn't trying to prove a point. I'm not smart enough to make points. I'm just asking you a question, because I'm Simple and you're an intelligent liberal who can explain these things to me. Let me repeat it:Originally posted by gribbler View Post
What changes to the bill were made just to get Olympia Snowe's vote? And why would Democrats, who are much smarter than I am, go through with those changes if they weren't going to get Olympia Snowe's vote anyway?
As I remember it with my feeble brain, Olympia Snowe announced she wouldn't vote for the bill several months before the final version was introduced."You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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That was after several months of trying to negotiate with her. It didn't work. Oh well. Obama tried. He didn't have no interest in bipartisanship.Originally posted by Jaguar View PostComment
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So what happened in the next four months, as the final bill was drafted? Did the writers of the bill write the bill to try to get Republican support? That seems to be what you told me."You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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After they had spent months trying to get Republican votes and failed, except for that one Republican who voted for the original House bill? Yeah, they probably gave up and just passed it with Democratic votes. Elections have consequences, after all.Originally posted by Jaguar View PostComment
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Scott Brown would beg to differ.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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So he didn't work with Republicans, and the Democrats got a bill free of Republican intervention?Originally posted by gribbler View Post"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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I was disputing the claim that he had no willingness to work with Republicans in any way.Originally posted by Jaguar View PostComment
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Bob Woodward seems to tell a different story in his latest book.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Bob Woodward wouldn't sell many books if he described politicians as nice guys who disagree on principle.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostComment
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OK, these facts make sense, even to a Simple Conservative. I only have one question for you, then. (Unlike my many for Oerdin, who consistently confuses my feeble Conservative mind.)
Why do you "wish he hadn't" tried to work with the Republicans, if it didn't end up changing the contents of the bill?"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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