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I encourage you to read the book. It's basically a collection of primary sources. He doesn't give any opinions.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Because he could have passed a bill a lot sooner if he had done reconciliation to begin with instead of trying to get a filibuster proof coalition of senators.Originally posted by Jaguar View PostComment
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Several of the Republicans flirted with voting for it and kept telling the Dems if only X or Y was changed then they would vote for it. Of course, in the end the Republican leadership told their members that anyone who did vote for it would lose all RNC reelection money and be targeted in the primaries so ultimately none of them did vote for it. What that gamesmanship did do is result in several rounds of the bill being weakened in hopes to get a few Republican votes. That's a tried and true Congressional game and it's why many (most?) liberals started bashing Obama and saying he'd compromise with himself on his own compromise.Originally posted by Jaguar View Post
The hard truth is the Dems bent over backwards to try to engage Republican concerns and even whole sale adopted the old Republican plan but the Republicans decided to just be obstructionist as much as possible. Something they've maintained for the last four years even blocking their own bills which they wrote if the President dared to say he supported the idea. It takes a special kind of hatred and stupidity to kill your own bills just so you can "not hand the President a victory".Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Could you name them? Which Republicans were saying that they might vote for the bill? What demands did they make?"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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Thank you for telling me hard truths."You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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You're asking me to remember specific names from like four years ago? I don't recall off the top of my head but I will do a google search and see if I can figure it out.Originally posted by Jaguar View PostTry http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Is this your childish way of admitting you were wrong about the supermajority?Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
What makes you less intelligent is not your opinion, but your intellectual dishonesty.
It must hurt you to your very core that a gay fake Canadian knows more than you do about American politics."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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They gay part is just incidental, I'm sure it's the Canadian part which really burns him up.
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Asher, I'm sorry I made fun of your curved office building, btw."You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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I actually don't like the building. I think it's "heavy" looking. I am not a fan of Norman Foster.Originally posted by Jaguar View Post"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Because Ben is adorable.Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
Not sure if serious.Re the Health Care bill: The GOP had nothing to do with the state of the bill. All changes made to it were done in order to get support from so-called conservative Democrats.
EDIT: I see we've been discussing this since that post. Damned long lag times between checking board. Nevermind."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
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Why wouldn't he be? Do you honestly think Democrats made a good faith effort to work with Republicans on healthcare?If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Completely.Originally posted by Guynemer View PostI make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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See what I did here? It's called a mind****.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Yes, even going so far as to completely adopt the Republican plan and, of course, no sooner did Obama say he liked the Republican plan then the Republicans flipped a 180 and declared they hated their own plan. Isn't it obvious they were never serious about solving the problem and where just trying to be obstructionist?Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostTry http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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