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  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    Ok, this is really important. What do you believe is causing the underrepresentation?
    discrimination
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    • discrimination
      Then why has the gap persisted for 50 years of anti-discrimination laws?
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      • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
        Then why has the gap persisted for 50 years of anti-discrimination laws?
        Why do you say that? There are problems that plague the black community like drugs, gangs etc... But I think anti-discrimination laws have done some good. That's not to say that blacks are equally represented, but they are better represented than they used to be.
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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        • Why do you say that? There are problems that plague the black community like drugs, gangs etc... But I think anti-discrimination laws have done some good. That's not to say that blacks are equally represented, but they are better represented than they used to be.
          Out of wedlock births are much higher today than in 1960. It's around 75 percent now. That has stark effects on poverty and on educational attainment by black children.
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          • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
            Out of wedlock births are much higher today than in 1960. It's around 75 percent now. That has stark effects on poverty and on educational attainment by black children.
            Sure. I just don't know why you think keeping blacks down on the bottom of society is going to help them.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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            • Sure. I just don't know why you think keeping blacks down on the bottom of society is going to help them.
              Blaming other people for their bad decisions is what is keeping them there. I want to address the real problems rather than papering them over. If we are willing to accept that they cannot do as well as others, that is very different from demanding that they step up and get it done.

              I teach kids all different stripes, all different backgrounds. I'm not going to give a minority student an extra bonus to ensure that their grades are exactly the same. No. I'm going to mark them the exact same. If that means they fail, then they fail. If they pull their pants up and work they will be rewarded for it with better grades. We are robbing them of the chance to learn how to succeed by accepting that they cannot do as well.
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              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                Blaming other people for their bad decisions is what is keeping them there. I want to address the real problems rather than papering them over. If we are willing to accept that they cannot do as well as others, that is very different from demanding that they step up and get it done.

                I teach kids all different stripes, all different backgrounds. I'm not going to give a minority student an extra bonus to ensure that their grades are exactly the same. No. I'm going to mark them the exact same. If that means they fail, then they fail. If they pull their pants up and work they will be rewarded for it with better grades. We are robbing them of the chance to learn how to succeed by accepting that they cannot do as well.
                I don't think that the problem is that they are blaming others. I was a teacher too, and I've thought alot about this, and wonder why it's so hard to motivate some poor students. It's because they are where they are. You aren't going to motivate them by failing them. They are just going to end up in prison or on welfare, and that's not helping anyone. I'm not saying that you should give them grades that they don't deserve. I'm just saying that you aren't going to get through to them by failing them. You've got to communicate with them. They need to understand that it's just not well enough to do just as well as their parents.
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                • Oh no!

                  Chick-fil-A wants to KILL THE GAYS!

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                  • Only blacks in Africa.

                    I recognize the Family Reseach Council. They also called for a boycott of advertisers on the "Ellen" show... They obviously respect free speech.
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                    • So the owner of CfA donated to a group that, as one of its numerous activities, happened to lobby against a meaningless resolution in Congress, the kind it spits out at a rate of 20 per day that nobody reads and nobody cares about?

                      Scandalous!

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                      • I thought congress had been deadlocked for several months... or is that just on real legislation?
                        There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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                        • Correct, real legislation only. Bull**** legislation gets passed like **** from an elephant with diarrhea.

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                          • Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                            Fine, I concede to your point in the distinction between private citizens and government as far as the First Amendment goes.
                            Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                            In other words, employees do not have the right to freedom of speech.

                            (and I don't know what the fvck a man applying for a job at Hooters has to do with free speech)
                            You are just so dumb. I actually hate you both because you are gay and because you are stupid.

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                            • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                              So the owner of CfA donated to a group that, as one of its numerous activities, happened to lobby against a meaningless resolution in Congress, the kind it spits out at a rate of 20 per day that nobody reads and nobody cares about?

                              Scandalous!
                              You can say that CfA might not have known everything FRC were doing, and you can say that congress pass a lot of meaningless ****, but please don't try and give FRC a free pass on this. They deliberately lobbied for something deeply unpleasant and they deserve to be vilified for it.

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                              • Well, it's unpleasant to contemplate but, since the resolution would have accomplished nothing, pass or fail...I don't see much point in getting worked up about it.
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