Catholic church condones child rape and is against the abortion that will save her life

[DaShi]

The Christian solution to abortion is to kill the child after it is born.

[Ben Kenobi]

Elok is not amused by someone who would condemn a child to certain death in the name of faith.

Not so. I'll take the opinion of an Obstetrician who says it can be done safely over your uninformed opinion.

[Elok]

For the record, I'm also not amused by the apparent glee with which Moby reported the story. "Oooh, a gruesome tale of child-rape, abortion, and injustice! I can't wait to use it to score cheap points off the most-easily-scored-on poster on this site!"

Of course, that pales in comparison to BK's ongoing effort to defend the utterly indefensible, but everybody was pointing that out, so...

[Asher]

Not so. I'll take the opinion of an Obstetrician who says it can be done safely over your uninformed opinion.

A woman!

Someone so utterly incompetent they could never be priests.

A proper Catholic woman wouldn't be so uppity.

[Ben Kenobi]

BK's ongoing effort to defend the utterly indefensible

Taking the child into the hospital and caring for her and her children, and giving her a c-section when the time comes to help her safely deliver her children is indefensible?

[Ben Kenobi]

Someone so utterly incompetent they could never be priests.

Hey, you said it, not me.

[Asher]

Taking the child into the hospital and caring for her and her children, and giving her a c-section when the time comes to help her safely deliver her children is indefensible?

The majority of doctors agreed that a 9 year old cannot birth twins without tremendous risk to her or the twins.

It's indefensible to put her at tremendous risk because her Catholic step-father raped her repeatedly for years.

[Ben Kenobi]

The majority of doctors agreed that a 9 year old cannot birth twins without tremendous risk to her or the twins.

Oh, I see. The same abortion doctors counselling abortion. Is there ever a difficult case where they would counsel against abortion?

It's indefensible to put her at tremendous risk because her Catholic step-father raped her repeatedly for years.

So because her children were a product of rape that means they should be killed? I think the children are worth fighting for and trying to save. It can be done safely without incurring undue harm on the mother, and there are doctors who back up my opinion - ones who aren't going to be paid for perfoming an abortion.

[giblets]

Why then doesn't the abortion doctor state how far along she was? If her children were older than 25 weeks, she could have delivered via c-section. No abortion necessary.

Read the article. It says she was four months pregnant. The fetuses weren't viable.

[Ben Kenobi]

Read the article. It says she was four months pregnant. The fetuses weren't viable.

So she was already 16 weeks along. They would have been viable in another 9 or so.

If she carried the children safely for 16 weeks - why not another 9? Another 6 would put her children over the bare minimum.

[giblets]

I don't know the details, but this could have been a medical emergency where waiting for over a month wouldn't have been acceptable. A girl who's only nine and has twins? It's very plausible.

[Asher]

Oh, I see. The same abortion doctors counselling abortion. Is there ever a difficult case where they would counsel against abortion?

Uh, yes?

You think they're giddy to perform abortions?

You probably do. In your simpleton brain you've demonized anyone who isn't a child-raping Catholic.

[Tuberski]

Really, why do you guys bother?

ACK!

[Ben Kenobi]

You think they're giddy to perform abortions?

He's been doing them for 13 years. It's his specialty. What, do you think he's reluctant to do them?

In your simpleton brain you've demonized anyone who isn't a child-raping Catholic.

I just think it's rather odd that someone who was excommunicated 13 years ago for performing abortions, has continued to perform abortions all the while, has gone to conferences objecting to abortion restrictions, and has been publicly dissenting with the Church is complaining about how the church is treating him now.

How is this man a Catholic, and why should we shed a tear over his excommunication?

[Ben Kenobi]

I don't know the details, but this could have been a medical emergency where waiting for over a month wouldn't have been acceptable. A girl who's only nine and has twins? It's very plausible.

That was my question earlier. What's the medical emergency? What's the rush to get the abortion done? Why not wait and deliver the babies via c-section?