Bush Was Even Worse for the Debt than Obama

[Hauldren Collider]

Congress has like a 10% approval rating, but ask people what they think of their own Congressman, and "oh no, he's one of the good ones."

Is this really surprising, given congressmen by definition win the majority vote?

Also I don't like my congressman. He's a democrat.

[DaShi]

God, this ****ing country, I swear to Christ.

Congress has like a 10% approval rating, but ask people what they think of their own Congressman, and "oh no, he's one of the good ones."

****ing morons, ****ing morons everyone, the government we ****ing deserve.

Never should've left Ann Arbor; I could at least escape to semi-competence via the Ambassador Bridge, or, in a pinch, the CBC.

Please don't kill yourself, Guy.

[DaShi]

By the way, I am allowed to say who the congressman was. It was Paul Ryan. Ryan claimed in the meeting that there was a deal in sight about 11 days before the deadline, but it was scuttled by the Democrats.

Did you ask if you could suck his ****?

[kentonio]

Kentonio, try reading Drake's posts. The GOP offered a fairly significant concession on taxes and the democrats didn't take it. The deal Pat Toomey offered actually looks to me to be not too far off of the stuff Obama has suggested in the past.

No they offered a peice of **** deal, and true to form the Dems gave ground like they always do and sent a revised offer back.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3623

It's the same **** they do every time, but never more blatently than since the debt ceiling debacle showed they could point a gun at America's head and get away with it.

[Hauldren Collider]

kentonio, exactly what makes you think they are doing this because they want to hurt America? You have this problem where you confuse difference of opinion with malicious intent.

It also amuses me that you get so emotional about the politics of a country that you don't reside in.

[Asher]

By the way, I am allowed to say who the congressman was. It was Paul Ryan. Ryan claimed in the meeting that there was a deal in sight about 11 days before the deadline, but it was scuttled by the Democrats.

Paul Ryan? Jesus Christ, that's even worse than your average dumbass GOPer.

[kentonio]

kentonio, exactly what makes you think they are doing this because they want to hurt America? You have this problem where you confuse difference of opinion with malicious intent.

No, it's not about malicious intent, it's about a complete disregard for the human costs of enriching their paymasters. What's truly scary is that people like yourself don't seem to be able to see just how far right the GOP has swung in the last decade. Newt Gingrich just suggested that school children should be put to work as janitors in schools for ****s sake, it's passed so far beyond parody now that it's actually becoming frightening. The current GOP can literally say or do ANYTHING and you ****ers just seem to smile and nod. If it wasn't for the fact that it'd hurt an awful lot of innocent people, I actually half wish you will get a GOP white house and congress in 2012 just so you get to see the effects of allowing bat**** crazy ****heads into power.

It also amuses me that you get so emotional about the politics of a country that you don't reside in.

Sometimes you just can't look away from that car crash.

[Asher]

kentonio, exactly what makes you think they are doing this because they want to hurt America? You have this problem where you confuse difference of opinion with malicious intent.

Well, it's not that they want to hurt America directly. It's in their interest to keep the economy in the ****ter so come election time they can blame Obama for not doing enough/anything/the-right-things. The debt ceiling example is the most blatant.

[Elok]

No, temperamentally closing a few loopholes in return for massive and much larger permanent cuts did not amount to a net tax increase offer by the Republicans.

What if they'd been cool and easygoing about the loopholes? Would that have made it any better?

[Elok]

It's the same **** they do every time, but never more blatently than since the debt ceiling debacle showed they could point a gun at America's head and get away with it.

I would say rather that the debt ceiling gave them more leverage to be audacious with. We've all known for ages that Democrats have empty-scrotum syndrome.

[Tupac Shakur]

Never should've left Ann Arbor; I could at least escape to semi-competence via the Ambassador Bridge, or, in a pinch, the CBC.

Dude, they can't even keep the lights on in Ann Arbor.

[Tupac Shakur]

Paul Ryan? Jesus Christ, that's even worse than your average dumbass GOPer.

Paul Ryan

[Hauldren Collider]

Paul Ryan's one of the few people in Washington with actual political courage, and probably the only one willing to be honest about the need for cutting medicare, medicaid and social security. Well, except for Ron Paul I guess, but he doesn't actually hold any position of authority in the party.

[Dinner]

Kentonio, try reading Drake's posts. The GOP offered a fairly significant concession on taxes and the democrats didn't take it. The deal Pat Toomey offered actually looks to me to be not too far off of the stuff Obama has suggested in the past.

Then you're either a liar or a complete fool (possibly both). "I am demanding $2 trillion in tax cuts for the rich (lowering their rate from 39% where it will be if they do nothing down to 28%) in return for $250 billion in tax increases on the middle class, oh, and I generously slash the pensions & medical care of old people". That's a net tax cut not a net tax increase and all Dems were offered in return was the same old partisan bull****.

[Tupac Shakur]

I'm not surprised that Oerdin seems to know absolutely nothing about mainstream tax reform plans or their benefits.