Greatest Sect of Christianity

[Kidlicious]

If you resort to false dilemmas, how can we discuss ANYTHING? It's not like the Almighty told every single author, "Okay, take a memo" and dictated the Bible word-for-word. It was all written and composed by people--the Bible itself says so, and I hope you don't contest that. They could get it right insofar as they heard the Word, understood it so far as they were able, and did their best to pass the message on.

Aaaah! How can you not get what I'm saying. It's GOD'S word. Forget about the writers momentarily. How can God's word be wrong? Why?!

[Kidlicious]

There are something like two thousand different Protestant sects, not counting solitary believers, all following their conscience and doing the best they can to interpret the Bible. A large number of them get it wrong purely out of ignorance, or biases they didn't know they had. This is how it's supposed to work?

Are they suppose to have biases? No. A bias is basically rebellion. It's a result of the Fall. However, just because you rely on an expert to interpret for you doesn't mean you don't have a bias.

[Kidlicious]

See, that's the funny thing. Your conception of the Holy Spirit has apparently told the Liberation Theology crowd that He likes poor people and hates rich ones, while He told the Prosperity Gospel crowd exactly the opposite. In the absence of "experts," or Tradition, who exactly is supposed to say which interpretation is right, or closer to right, or less wrong?

Only God

[Elok]

Because it is, in fact, NOT God's Word. Christ is the eternal Logos, the Way, the Truth, and the Life. The Bible is simply a record--a valuable record, and very important, but still a record, composed and written by very holy but still fallible men, each with their own points of view, prejudices, and failings. Your attitude towards it is a historical novelty, and would have struck most Christians throughout history as baffling and possibly mildly idolatrous.

[Elok]

Are they suppose to have biases? No. A bias is basically rebellion. It's a result of the Fall. However, just because you rely on an expert to interpret for you doesn't mean you don't have a bias.

It's not "an expert," it's thousands and thousands of experts, and the accumulated wisdom of their lifetimes, all piled together in one Tradition which informs our understanding. If one person, alone, tries to do a difficult problem, he'll likely get it wrong. If he compares it to the calculations of several hundred other people who have done it before, he can still be wrong, but the likelihood of error is reduced. This applies to all fields of human knowledge and endeavor.

[Al B. Sure!]

Thanks, Kidicious.

Like Ben, Behold a True Christian!

[Felch]

It says that God doesn't communicate through so called experts.

Where does it say that?

[Elok]

Thanks, Kidicious.

Like Ben, Behold a True Christian!

BK is Catholic. He doesn't/didn't believe in anything remotely resembling sola scriptura.

[Al B. Sure!]

BK is Catholic. He doesn't/didn't believe in anything remotely resembling sola scriptura.

Exactly. BK is a true Catholic. Kidicious is a true Protestant Christian. Different religions, which they are each consistent with.

[Al B. Sure!]

And both would agree with the Church's position regarding inerrancy of the Bible and opposition to moral relativism, which was the other point. Sola Scriptura stems from Biblical inerrancy.

[Elok]

Have you just changed your argument to troll, or do you actually think you're still arguing the same thing?

[Al B. Sure!]

Have you just changed your argument to troll, or do you actually think you're still arguing the same thing?

No. You miss the point. Scripture is God's Word and is perfect. That is what Christians are SUPPOSED to believe (and is what Kidicious and the Catholic Church believe). Protestants like Kidicious do not believe there is any need for an intermediary to understand God's Word, as it is exactly how it is written, whereas the Catholics retain one, but both are agreed on the perfect nature of the Word.

[Elok]

All this 'tradition' stuff is just things written by mere men. The Word of God is eternal. - Every true Christian

Guess who likes tradition? Catholics!

[Al B. Sure!]

But the Bible is Perfect, Inerrant, Infallible, and Complete. You supposed Christians keep denying this.

[Barnabas]

No Catholic or Orthodox believes in a ventriloquist God who possessed certain people in different moments of History and used them as typewriters for writing the books of the bible.

Albie, don't forget that Catholics are the big denomination, till about 5 years ago there were more Catholics in the world than Muslims.

Kidicius, have you read Church history? Writings of Christians from the second and third century? Some who were second and third generations christians? People who met the apostles or were pupils of people who knew the apostles? Bishops in cities were a very early development of the Church, and the Church was a unified thing with a hierarchy.
The Church isn't democratic, and the Church had the right to declare someone a heretic or as anathema if his interpretation of Christianity was heterodox and differed from the consensus.