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  • #16
    Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
    Something like 50%-60% of the military white male aged people in the south were killed
    Not nearly enough.

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    • #17
      None of the above.
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      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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      • #18
        Of course much of Lee's success can be attributed to the Yankee generals just being ****ing awful.
        If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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        • #19
          I watched "Wild Wild West" last night. There just aren't enough giant steam powered spiders mechs these days...

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          • #20
            Will Smith
            If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
              Yeah, so basically Grant's strategy was "we have reserves". An effective strategy, obviously, but had Lee and Grant flipped places Lee would have been the victor.

              Grant sure lost a hell of a lot of men fighting with 2-1 numbers and much better logistics.
              Yeah, he'd lose a lot but he'd move them. The Confederates would counter attack and lose the same but unlike the north they just couldn't replace them. Then Grant would order his army to "move by the left, move by the left" (left flank the rebels and attack again) and it worked.
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              • #22
                Check which side my state was on you filthy rebel scum. We spanked the **** out of worthless Texans in the Arizona and New Mexico territories too.
                I did a search for the words, "Union", "successful", "invasion", "Texas". 0 results found.
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                • #23
                  WTF does HC give a **** about the Army of Northern Virginia? It's not like they had any Jews in that Army nor would they even have allowed unsaved Hebrews in their Army simply because they didn't like Jews. Hell, they didn't even allow Irish Catholics in southern armies for half the war; it wasn't until the south was getting the floor cleaned by their faces and even then they didn't want Italians or "Spaniards". They only took Irish because there were a lot of them in the south and because Irish really look almost the same as British Americans. They still waited until they were hard up before they even let the Irish in though.
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                  • #24
                    Also. Salma Hayek
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                    • #25
                      WTF does HC give a **** about the Army of Northern Virginia? It's not like they had any Jews in that Army nor would they even have allowed unsaved Hebrews in their Army simply because they didn't like Jews.
                      Because he was born and raised in VA, just like Lee?
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
                        We spanked the **** out of worthless Texans in the Arizona and New Mexico territories too.
                        So nothing of importance?
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                        • #27
                          Apparently not losing Raton is a 'victory'.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
                            WTF does HC give a **** about the Army of Northern Virginia? It's not like they had any Jews in that Army nor would they even have allowed unsaved Hebrews in their Army simply because they didn't like Jews. Hell, they didn't even allow Irish Catholics in southern armies for half the war; it wasn't until the south was getting the floor cleaned by their faces and even then they didn't want Italians or "Spaniards". They only took Irish because there were a lot of them in the south and because Irish really look almost the same as British Americans. They still waited until they were hard up before they even let the Irish in though.
                            ....what?

                            Is anyone else thoroughly baffled by this post?
                            If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                              Because he was born and raised in VA, just like Lee?
                              No, I was born in Tennessee, actually. Kuci was born in Alabama but doesn't like to admit it.

                              But don't think for a second that I believe Lee was on the right side of the conflict. I don't.
                              If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
                                Yeah, he'd lose a lot but he'd move them. The Confederates would counter attack and lose the same but unlike the north they just couldn't replace them. Then Grant would order his army to "move by the left, move by the left" (left flank the rebels and attack again) and it worked.
                                No, the rebs lost less than the yanks, if I recall correctly. Supposedly they were generally better soldiers.

                                The south fought pretty well all things considered. If only they'd fought for something that wasn't so ****ing horrendous.
                                If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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