Tevatron is shutting down today.

[BlackCat]

Please stop quoting Ben, those of us who blocked him don't want to read his ****.

Sorry, but it's a habit I have come accustomed to. You can't fight Breivik's and BK's by ignoring them

[BlackCat]

Shipwrights.

Could you please tell how the engineer/astrophysicist rate is at such a place ?

I did answer your question.

No you have in no way even been close to answer my question.

[Ben Kenobi]

Could you please tell how the engineer/astrophysicist rate is at such a place ?

Last I checked Engineers design

Shipwrights build.

Are you sure you're an engineer?

[BlackCat]

Last I checked Engineers design

Shipwrights build.

Are you sure you're an engineer?

Please answer my question.

Edit: There should be more 's than in the original

[loinburger]

And they call me a luddite.

What would be the scientific (or non-scientific) benefits of a moon base? "Looking cool" would be a benefit, granted, but not one worth several trillion dollars. (That's the fundamental problem with a moon base - there are millions of projects that deserve the funding far more than a moon base would.)

If anything, championing worthless pseudo-scientific projects makes you more of a luddite. You might as well call for sinking a trillion dollars into astrology while you're at it, then calling your detractors luddites.

[Pax]

The only benefit of a moon base is if some fuel like he3 were able to be mined there and shipped here at an economically feasible cost.

[loinburger]

That would require clones, and I doubt that BK would approve of cloning

[Pax]

BK, you actually did not answer my question but don't worry about it. I see that you actually can't give a straight answer.

[Theben]

I r saddened by this. I grew up in Batavia, IL, which is where Fermilab (and the accelerator) are located.

Went in there once as a kid, had friends who worked there as did their parents.

Another piece of my childhood died. RIP.

[Ben Kenobi]

What would be the scientific (or non-scientific) benefits of a moon base?

Two words.

Gravity. Well.

[Ben Kenobi]

BK, you actually did not answer my question but don't worry about it. I see that you actually can't give a straight answer.

That's ok. You really weren't interested in what I had to say anyways.

[Ben Kenobi]

The only benefit of a moon base is if some fuel like he3 were able to be mined there and shipped here at an economically feasible cost.

Christ on a crutch.

Launching **** off the moon is hella easier than building it on earth and launching it up to the moon. Sure, it's expensive in the beginning, but once it was up and running, you could get BIG stuff, not this rinky dink shuttle ****.

[Ben Kenobi]

Here I thought Poly was forward looking. This is really depressing. *sigh*.

Poly has to be the most stuck in the mud, navel gazing forum ever. If I were to post this idea anywhere else, I could hit SOMEBODY who sees it the way I do.

But, that's 'progressives' for you. Can't see the **** forests for the trees.

[Docfeelgood]

Here I thought Poly was forward looking. This is really depressing. *sigh*.

Poly has to be the most stuck in the mud, navel gazing forum ever. If I were to post this idea anywhere else, I could hit SOMEBODY who sees it the way I do.

But, that's 'progressives' for you. Can't see the **** forests for the trees.

cast not pearls in front of hamsters

[Pax]

Christ on a crutch.

Launching **** off the moon is hella easier than building it on earth and launching it up to the moon. Sure, it's expensive in the beginning, but once it was up and running, you could get BIG stuff, not this rinky dink shuttle ****.

BK, connect physics with economics. There has to be some value in going there. Why do you think the Europeans went to the new world or china. To open markets. In the end, the profits have to be greater than the costs.
I think that the idea of colonizing other planets, moons, space stations and etc is exciting but why go to pluto if they don't have a night club. Why go to venus if they don't have a grocery store, why go to mars if there's no jobs. There has to be something of value on these worlds in order for us to settle there.
Your statement about how cheap it would be launch **** off the moon shows how really stupid you are to practical issues. What **** would you launch off the moon dickhead. Hey, let's build a colony on the moon so we can launch **** off of it. Okay, We've built the colony and the apparatus to launch ****. Now what do we launch. I don't know but it's really cool.