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  • #91
    And that's why we have the Fiat Panda 4x4.



    In the late 80s I owned one of the original Panda 4x4s. It was hilariously basic and a ***** to start, but had loads of character.
    The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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    • #92
      Are those carry handles on the top so you can pick it up and put it in the parking space?
      Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
      Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
      We've got both kinds

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      • #93
        Or lace them onto the bottoms of your shoes, yes.
        The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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        • #94
          Suzuzi Multicab. You could buy a six pack and treat them as disposable. Can't make it up the icy hill? No worries, you already have one parked up top!

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          • #95
            Originally posted by MikeH View Post
            Are those carry handles on the top so you can pick it up and put it in the parking space?
            We actually did something similar with a smart.
            "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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            • #96
              Looking at this thread I laughed at the idea that such a controversional statement as a city in the foothills of the rockies is "hilly" was disputed
              You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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              • #97
                I'm late to this party, but I own a (2007) Subaru Outback and like it a lot. It drives well - plenty of power, handles well - and gets decent but not great gas mileage (~24-25 miles to the gallon in mostly highway driving). It looks like a station wagon, of course, but it does not drive like one. I got it because it has enough room for us, our daughter, and the two dogs (though that's a stretch) and has a roof-rack for a cargo thingy. The All-wheel drive is nice... I think it really does help some in the snow/ice.

                I would imagine the Forester "drives" similarly. It has less cargo space, though. If this is for commuting for 1 guy, both Subarus seem like overkill.

                -Arrian
                Last edited by Arrian; August 31, 2011, 14:45.
                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                • #98
                  Subarus are pretty good

                  Automatic transmission though...
                  Indifference is Bliss

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                  • #99
                    After test drives, the winner was the RAV 4 (by a good margin).

                    Bought a brand new RAV 4 V6 4WD Limited w/ the Leather & JBL Sound package. Won't be delivered for 1-2 months due to demand, though.

                    Subaru was 2nd but the dealer was a hardass in negotiation and rubbed me the wrong way. Further, the closest dealership is 15km in the wrong direction from me. Way too far.

                    The Rogue wasn't very impressive. The CVT just isn't for me. The power isn't there when you punch it -- it lags. At high freeway speed the engine sounds like a shopvac.

                    The RAV4 goes 0-60 in something like 6.5 seconds. Night and day difference.

                    I ended up getting the car for cost + 1.95% (default markup is 9-10%) and didn't deal with any sales people. Went straight to the fleet manager and got it all squared away with him. No haggling required. Saved $2900 off the sticker price. My employer has an agreement with that dealership.
                    Last edited by Asher; September 3, 2011, 20:31.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • As long as it isn't lime green, you'll do fine.

                      ACK!
                      Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                      • Congratulations Asher, same day as well...although I have mine already.

                        Originally posted by Tuberski View Post
                        As long as it isn't lime green, you'll do fine.

                        ACK!
                        No, it isn't lime green, I think the term was "venom green" on the sides and the rest black.
                        Speaking of Erith:

                        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                        • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                          I ended up getting the car for cost + 1.95% (default markup is 9-10%) and didn't deal with any sales people. Went straight to the fleet manager and got it all squared away with him. No haggling required. Saved $2900 off the sticker price. My employer has an agreement with that dealership.
                          Did you buy any extras? 2% markup just doesn't seem like a healthy business to me.

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                          • They tried very hard to sell me all kinds of extras, and I bought none.

                            I'm sure they hated me.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • You nit.

                              Are you sure about the CVT, that genius Dutch invention was so effective that it was banned from Formula 1.

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                              • Oh, I am very sure. I'm sure the CVTs in F1 were a different breed than mid-grade consumer cars...

                                The CVT in these are optimized for fuel efficiency, not performance.

                                It felt very laggy in acceleration (for the first few seconds), then it was very loud at sustained RPMs.
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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