I've had enough

[Al B. Sure!]

No banning. That would be plain wrong. Ben went overboard in that thread. But he is a good man, and the way he is treated here it's a miracle he manages to remain so calm and not respond with the same ****t back at you. I know I would have gone crazy had you all behaved as childish as you lot often do towards him. That being said, in that thread he should apologize. Be the better man, Ben.

Nikolai, I refuse to believe that you actually read Ben's posts and say that stuff. Maybe Asher acts 'childish' to him but the arguments Ben makes are so off the wall insane and hypocritical that it drives you crazy. Ben doesn't think like the rest of us. Again, I don't mean that in a belief system way; I mean that his ability to understand things and make connections is completely broken.

Not only that but he is incessantly argumentative. Maybe your view is colored by consideration of political and religious opinions which you feel anything is fair game. But Ben is completely insane and destructively argumentative when discussing American football. I don't think I can overstate how inexcusable his actions were in the Fantasy Football draft and yet he has done that sort of activity attempting to undermine the entire draft (which we do for freaking fun) for 3 straight years! 3 years. 3 fantasy drafts that he single-handedly tried to undermine. Maybe that's not his intention but any objective observer would be certain that he's a destructive force.

[Al B. Sure!]

I saw that as offensive as well

It's the third straight year where he has done something like that!

I don't know if you noticed but in the other fantasy league (the one that Jaguar is commissioner of), we completed the draft with 0 problems. We had 0 problems last year. The league that Ben is in goes through craziness every year.

[Nikolai]

I know he is not easy to argue with, but I know him from outside poly too and he is a good guy and not close to as bad and stupid as people here claim. He loves to discuss here despite how people treat him though. I don't get that. He is far from faultless, but so are the rest here too. In fact I find him one of the better posters in this (now) poor excuse for a civ site. I don't give him a free pass for being of same faith as me, but I understand some of his views as a result of it ofc. I generally tend to disagree with his debating techniques, but far from always with his views. IN general I find the treatment of him here disgraceful and narrow-minded. Some here disagree with whatever he posts on principle.

[DaShi]

Hang him!

[Asher]

Asher does this to Ben at least once a year. It's a s'poly tradition.

[BlackCat]

Nikolai, I refuse to believe that you actually read Ben's posts and say that stuff.

Al, Nikolai are also a religious nutter, but he has some redeeming traits - he's norwegian, not canuck, he understand logic and accept such, he's friendly, not smarmy and he's curious about hard core Isle of Islays

[Al B. Sure!]

I know he is not easy to argue with, but I know him from outside poly too and he is a good guy and not close to as bad and stupid as people here claim. He loves to discuss here despite how people treat him though. I don't get that. He is far from faultless, but so are the rest here too. In fact I find him one of the better posters in this (now) poor excuse for a civ site. I don't give him a free pass for being of same faith as me, but I understand some of his views as a result of it ofc. I generally tend to disagree with his debating techniques, but far from always with his views. IN general I find the treatment of him here disgraceful and narrow-minded. Some here disagree with whatever he posts on principle.

It's not just matters of religion or politics. That's what I'm trying to say. His literally crazy way of thinking enters into the domains of sports discussion and fantasy football. It's not us. It's none of us. It's Ben. He has a disorder.

I'm not being smart. I'm being serious. I know I don't have a background in psychology but I am certain there is something wrong with his head.

Or he's just completely trolling us.


And Nikolai, I know you as a Norwegian probably know nothing about American football but ask anyone who does... the two statements in my signature from Ben are both completely insane and indefensible...

[DaShi]

I just saw what he did in the Prof. Layton thread. I retract my previous statement.

Draw and quarter him!!!!

[Al B. Sure!]

I'm actually curious now how Ben acts in hockey discussions and fantasy hockey. Is he the same way? Does he laud how some career backup from the Canucks was better than Wayne Gretzky?

[giblets]

No banning. That would be plain wrong. Ben went overboard in that thread. But he is a good man, and the way he is treated here it's a miracle he manages to remain so calm and not respond with the same ****t back at you. I know I would have gone crazy had you all behaved as childish as you lot often do towards him. That being said, in that thread he should apologize. Be the better man, Ben.

You don't get treated the way he gets treated because you're nice and don't have a habit of misrepresenting other people's opinions or motives and lying when you can't find any facts that conform to your bias. Ben could be a good man in person for all I know, but that's not that's not how he comes across on the internet, IMO.

[Asher]

I'm actually curious now how Ben acts in hockey discussions and fantasy hockey. Is he the same way? Does he laud how some career backup from the Canucks was better than Wayne Gretzky?

Yes, he certainly does. He picks mediocre Canucks players and compares them to people far better and concludes the Canuck player is the best.

[Zoetstofzoetje]

this hockey stuff is out of my league. my football league to be exact. can we talk Van Basten and Cruijff. also, can we all get on with our lives now? this is already a 3-page 'monster'

[Al B. Sure!]

Yes, he certainly does. He picks mediocre Canucks players and compares them to people far better and concludes the Canuck player is the best.

He described Doug Flutie as Peyton Manning with Randall Cunningham speed. My brain shut down when I read that.

[Ben Kenobi]

Man that Ben Kenobi guy really sucks eh?

[joncha]

Is he the one who's always hording QBs in the fantasy football league?